Re: [spring] SRv6 BGP based Overlay Services (draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-07)

2021-10-22 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Haibo, Thanks for your feedback and confirmation. Indeed the “alternate steering mechanism” is better. Will push this change in the next revision. Thanks, Ketan From: Wanghaibo (Rainsword) Sent: 28 September 2021 15:31 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; b...@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-bess-srv6

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-06.txt

2019-12-15 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Mark, The draft talks about "destination of the policy" as in the tail-end node of the SR Policy. It does not talk about the destination IP address in the packet. You can consider this as a "default policy" on similar lines as a default route. Please see the section below which will cover on

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-06.txt

2019-12-16 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
previously that indicated an issue because someone was using these zero addresses as destination IP in the packets. That would be an incorrect analogy since there is no such proposal in this document. Thanks, Ketan From: Mark Smith Sent: 16 December 2019 12:27 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: SPRING

Re: [spring] Different MSDs for different traffic types on the same headend.

2019-12-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Nat, The MSD framework enables us to define more/new MSD types. If there is a real use-case and requirement (as you express) and the necessary MSD type(s) can be formally defined then perhaps the WG can evaluate it. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of Nat Kao Sent: 17 December 2019 17:

Re: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming - 2 week Early Allocation Call

2020-01-06 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Support the early allocation. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: 19 December 2019 22:24 To: SPRING WG Subject: [spring] draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming - 2 week Early Allocation Call Hi SPRING WG, This begins a 2 week Early Allocation call f

Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-02-26 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Spring WG colleagues, I am really concerned at the attempts made to drag this WGLC out further. Let me summarize why. 1. The only sticking point that I am aware of (since I’ve been following all discussions closely) is about the claim being made by some members that PSP violates RFC8200

Re: [spring] "penultimate segment" [Re: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming]

2020-02-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Brian, It is likely that things are not clear if one were to just try to read the text around just the specific section of the draft which covers PSP. The document does needs prior understanding of the SR Architecture RFC8402 and SRH draft in addition to reading of the entire network progr

Re: [spring] Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-02-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Ted, I’ve tried to clarify Brian’s point : https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/rb23KclF_SKqRsnjvm82192vBZ8/ The draft under WGLC review in Spring WG already has pointers to all those drafts that I’ve mentioned. Thanks, Ketan From: ipv6 On Behalf Of Ted Lemon Sent: 28 February 202

Re: [spring] A permanent change to/violation of RFC8200 for a temporary situation. (Re: Is srv6 PSP a good idea)

2020-02-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Mark, Just to clarify, the SRv6 control plane is not being extended beyond the SRv6 data plane. Let me explain. The legacy egress PE which does not have SRH processing capabilities is still instantiating the SRv6 End.DT/DX SID [ref net-pgm draft sec 4.4-8] in its FIB. That is still SRv6. No

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-10.txt

2020-02-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi John, Please check inline below. From: spring On Behalf Of John Scudder Sent: 28 February 2020 02:41 To: SPRING WG ; 6man WG Cc: Ron Bonica ; daniel.vo...@bell.ca Subject: Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-10.txt I have an additional observation, or questi

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-02-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Chris, I agree with Peter and I would suggest to drop LSR since this is not a protocol specific thing. I believe the text in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming clears says what locator block and locator node are. What more details do you think are required? Thanks, Ketan From: Lsr

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-02-28 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
wait for him to clarify. Thanks, Ketan From: Lsr On Behalf Of bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: 28 February 2020 14:34 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Chris Bowers Cc: l...@ietf.org; SPRING WG List ; draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) Subject: Re: [Lsr

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-03-03 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
March 2020 23:39 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; l...@ietf.org; SPRING WG List ; draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Bruno Decraene Subject: Re: [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-03 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Joel, I would like to echo the arguments that Bruno has made (and quote part of it) in his summary and then previously on this thread. QOUTE The point was related to the usefulness of the optional feature, which has been challenged. I was trying to say the required argumentation to dec

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-03 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
ust dismissing them without sharing your views? Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Joel M. Halpern Sent: 04 March 2020 13:16 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; Martin Vigoureux ; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-pro

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
s.ietf.org/html/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status-05#section-4.2 -Original Message----- From: Joel Halpern Direct Sent: 04 March 2020 13:26 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; Martin Vigoureux ; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
e could just agree to disagree. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Joel M. Halpern Sent: 04 March 2020 14:04 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; bruno.decra...@orange.com; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Given that we are talking about

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, There is the signalling from the "tail-end node" in SRv6 as well. Perhaps you missed https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-06#section-4.4 ? Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 04 March 2020 15:09 To:

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, Please check inline below. From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 04 March 2020 15:41 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: spring@ietf.org; Martin Vigoureux ; Joel M. Halpern ; Andrew G. Malis Subject: RE: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Ketan, Lots of thanks

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Robert, Please check inline below. From: Robert Raszuk Sent: 04 March 2020 16:07 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Alexander Vainshtein ; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Hi Ketan, Let's assume following sce

Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to close the LC and move forward//RE: WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Jinmei, Please check inline below. -Original Message- From: ipv6 On Behalf Of Sent: 05 March 2020 05:15 To: Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6...@ietf.org; Bob Hinden ; Robert Raszuk Subject: Re: [spring] Suggest some text //RE: Request to close the LC and m

Re: [spring] SRv6 PSP use case

2020-03-04 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Joel, Thanks for your attempt at summarizing one of the use-cases of PSP which has been actively discussed/debated on the list. I see that you are suggesting to do something like a use-case review for it. It might be a useful discussion for the WG, but I am sure you are not suggesting any as

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Chris, Dropping the draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming authors since we are now back to discussing the ISIS extensions. Please check inline below. From: Chris Bowers Sent: 05 March 2020 21:53 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; l...@ietf.org; SPRING WG

Re: [spring] Question on draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-12

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, In SR-MPLS, we have the inner VPN label and then we can have the BSID label. Similarly for SRv6, we have the VPN SID (e.g. End.DT4) and the BSID (i.e. End.B6.Encaps). I hope that clarifies. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 12 March 2020 16:03 To: P

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Andrew, I believe the /20 example was what Softbank seems to be using for their (very large?) network and use-cases. It’s an example of how much IPv6 space they’ve got from ARIN. A millionth of that for SRv6 indicates a /40 (if I’ve got my maths right). Now, I don’t claim to be aware of Soft

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
owers ; l...@ietf.org; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Bruno Decraene Subject: Re: [Lsr] [spring] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) writes: > [KT] The behaviors currently l

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
nks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Sander Steffann Sent: 12 March 2020 17:23 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Andrew Alston ; Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; spring@ietf.org; 6man WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming Hi, > I believe the /20 exa

Re: [spring] draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy Policy Name Sub-TLV considerations

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
-Original Message----- From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Sent: 13 February 2020 23:38 To: Jeffrey Haas ; draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-pol...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org Subject: RE: draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy Policy Name Sub-TLV considerations Hi Jeff, I agree with you about the limi

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
ation. Please check further inline below. -Original Message- From: Sander Steffann Sent: 12 March 2020 18:26 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Andrew Alston ; Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; spring@ietf.org; 6man WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

Re: [spring] [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
preclude a use-case for it in IGPs themselves in the future. Thanks, Ketan From: Chris Bowers Sent: 12 March 2020 20:29 To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: l...@ietf.org; SPRING WG List ; Bruno Decraene Subject: Re: [Lsr] clarification of locator block and locator node in

Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

2020-03-12 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sander, Please check inline below. -Original Message- From: Sander Steffann Sent: 12 March 2020 19:14 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Andrew Alston ; Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) ; spring@ietf.org; 6man WG Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

Re: [spring] SRV6 - SR-TE support & Flex Alg support ? and comparison and contrast of those two steering strategies

2020-03-31 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Gyan, To add to what Peter has clarified, SR Policy architecture also supports SRv6 (as you've pointed out in the references) - loose and strict paths as well as steering for colored BGP routes. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of Peter Psenak Sent: 31 March

Re: [spring] [Idr] WG Adoption - draft-li-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu-03.txt - 2 Week WG adoption call (3/30 - 4/13)

2020-04-03 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello, I have a few questions for the authors of this draft and some discussion points for the WG. 1. What is precisely the definition of this "path MTU" for an SR Policy? I am guessing that it includes all the labels/SIDs that are used for the SR path? 2. While https://tools.ietf.org/ht

Re: [spring] [Idr] WG Adoption - draft-li-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu-03.txt - 2 Week WG adoption call (3/30 - 4/13)

2020-04-08 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Cheng, Please check inline below. From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 08 April 2020 14:36 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Susan Hares ; 'IDR List' Cc: SPRING WG Subject: RE: [Idr] WG Adoption - draft-li-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu-03.txt - 2 Week WG adoption call (3/30 - 4/13) Hi Ke

Re: [spring] [Idr] WG Adoption - draft-li-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu-03.txt - 2 Week WG adoption call (3/30 - 4/13)

2020-04-09 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
encodings. I would suggest to move the specification of SR Policy Path MTU into a new draft positioned in the Spring WG. That IMHO would be the right way to progress this work. Thanks, Ketan From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 09 April 2020 16:27 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Susan Hares ; '

Re: [spring] Comments: Route Origin Community in SR Policy(draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy)

2020-04-30 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Cheng, I assume you are recommending the use of Route Origin Extended Community (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4360#section-5) for conveying the "Originator" when the SR Policy update is propagated over eBGP sessions via other eBGP/iBGP sessions instead of direct peering with the headend.

[spring] Types of Segment IDs in CRH - same as Spring SIDs !

2020-05-15 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Ron, You still do not name segment types in this version of the draft. *You called them "loose" and "strict" in your email [1]. *In previous versions you called them "Prefix SID" and "Adjacency" [2] and in your ISIS draft [3]. It seems clear to anyone that knows and unde

Re: [spring] [Idr] Comments: Route Origin Community in SR Policy(draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy)

2020-05-18 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
for the “Originator” field for some deployment design. I haven’t seen a response/clarification from him as yet, and so perhaps I misunderstood him in which case we are ok here. Thanks, Ketan From: Robert Raszuk Sent: 30 April 2020 14:46 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Chengli (Cheng Li

[spring] FW: Adoption Call for "The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH)"

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello Spring WG, You might be very interested in this ongoing WG adoption poll for the CRH proposal (what was previously introduced in Spring as part of the SRm6 proposal). The authors are now claiming that theirs is a new IPv6 source routing proposal that is unrelated to work/charter of Sprin

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Ron, It is the 6man charter that precludes it from defining a new Source Routing solution. "It is not chartered to develop major changes or additions to the IPv6 specifications." The RH work done in 6man (not ipng or ipv6) has been based on requirements from other WGs where those solutions

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Talaulikar (ketant) ; Ron Bonica ; Chengli (Cheng Li) ; Zafar Ali (zali) ; Robert Raszuk Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH On 22-May-20 05:26, Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: ...> It is the 6man charter tha

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
of the Routing area in this case) for a solution and does not provide the necessary reference for 6man to work on. Why the rush? I close my arguments. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Bob Hinden Sent: 22 May 2020 09:03 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: Bob Hinden ; Brian

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
mance/fuel efficiency parameters required, etc.) before we start designing tyres for it. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Joel M. Halpern Sent: 22 May 2020 10:02 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org>; rtg-...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring]

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-21 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
I am thinking that the operators would be looking for the car and not the tyre? Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Sent: 22 May 2020 10:55 To: 'Joel M. Halpern' Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org>; rtg-...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [spr

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-23 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
essage- From: Joel M. Halpern Sent: 22 May 2020 20:06 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org>; rtg-...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH None of those documents drive the need for SRv6.Even

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-23 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
likar (ketant) Cc: Joel M. Halpern ; rtg-...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:21 PM Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) wrote: > > Hi Joel, > > I'll point you to

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-25 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
ca-6man-comp-rtg-hdr? Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Ron Bonica Sent: 25 May 2020 09:03 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel M. Halpern Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-28 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
so should be considered as a significant change to IPv6. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Ron Bonica mailto:rbonica=40juniper@dmarc.ietf.org>> Sent: 25 May 2020 21:14 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) mailto:ket...@cisco.com>>; Joel M. Halpern mailto:j...@joelhalper

Re: [spring] Long-standing practice of due-diligence is expected - Re: CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-28 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Sometimes a known devil is better than an unknown one. I think we need to be very careful in considering the introduction of a new label/ID mapping technology into IPv6 Routing and it's ramifications. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bonica-spring-sr-mapped-six-01#section-5.1 The maxim

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
before the horse in this case. Thanks, Ketan From: Gyan Mishra Sent: 28 May 2020 20:27 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: 6man <6...@ietf.org>; Joel M. Halpern ; Ron Bonica ; rtg-...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

Re: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH

2020-05-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
8 May 2020 20:41 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel M. Halpern Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] CRH is back to the SPRING Use-Case - Re: Size of CR in CRH Ketan, Neither of these forwarding methods are unique to SR.. In Section 3.1 of RFC 79

Re: [spring] Long-standing practice of due-diligence is expected - Re: CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

2020-05-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
e are considering a document for adoption and it is difficult to put together all the bits and pieces spread over hundreds of emails. Thanks, Ketan From: Ron Bonica Sent: 28 May 2020 20:43 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Erik Kline ; Zafar Ali (zali) Cc: spring@ietf.org; 6man <6...@ietf.org&

Re: [spring] [Idr] Comments: Route Origin Community in SR Policy(draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy)

2020-06-01 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
-segment-routing-policy-07 On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 3:25 AM Chengli (Cheng Li) mailto:c...@huawei.com>> wrote: Hi Ketan, Sorry for my delay, I saw the update, and it has addressed my comments, many thanks. Best, Cheng From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) [mailto:ket...@cisco.com<mailto:ket...@

Re: [spring] Leadership change

2020-06-15 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Thanks Rob for your help and support. Thanks as well to Bruno for his continued help. Welcome Joel and Jim in your new roles. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of Martin Vigoureux Sent: 15 June 2020 01:55 To: spring@ietf.org Cc: 6...@ietf.org; int-...@ietf.org; br

Re: [spring] WG adoption call for draft-voyer-spring-sr-replication-segment

2020-06-22 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
I support the adoption of this document and would be willing to work on its progression through Spring WG as well it's related protocol extensions in other routing WGs. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: 22 June 2020 20:16 To: sp

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-08.txt

2020-07-08 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, We've just posted an update for the draft with the following changes: - Clarification regarding signalling of SR Policy Name via protocols - Updated security considerations section - Updated text for SRv6 with inclusion of behaviour to align with draft-ietf-spring-network-programming - U

Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-raza-spring-sr-policy-yang

2020-07-13 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, I support the WG adoption of this important Yang model for SR Policy. It is one of the WG milestones and therefore something that the WG has already resolved to work upon. The proposal in the draft itself is well advanced and provides a very good version for the WG to accomplish this wo

Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-raza-spring-srv6-yang

2020-07-13 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, I support the adoption of this document by the WG. The Yang model for SRv6 is something that the WG needs to work on as a deliverable alongside all the ongoing SRv6 work. The proposal in the draft aligns with the draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming and thus provides a good base f

Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn

2020-07-23 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, This document seems to talk of "resource group" SIDs that is something interesting - specifically for SR-MPLS (I don't see the same relevance for SRv6). I support the adoption of (what is coming across to me as) this concept of a new "resource group" scope for SR SIDs as a work ite

Re: [spring] Comments on SR policy

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Zhenqiang Li, Thanks for you review and sharing your comments. Please check inline below. From: li_zhenqi...@hotmail.com Sent: 05 August 2020 14:03 To: spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy Subject: Comments on SR policy Dear authors and all, Please consider the follow

Re: [spring] Spring protection - determining applicability

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, I would like to share a different perspective on this. First, thanks to Joel for bringing up the discussion. Clearly we need a well-defined applicability statement for determining applicability of protection for segment used in an SR Policy. Some of this is captured in [1]. This is abo

Re: [spring] WG adoption call for draft-hegde-spring-node-protection-for-sr-te-paths

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, I believe this topic is relevant and something for the WG to adopt and work on. I have some concerns though on it's applicability and more specifically it's implications on existing deployments/use-cases. I've share the same on the thread started by Joel on this specific aspect [1]. Som

Re: [spring] Spring protection - determining applicability

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
about Adj-SIDs. Thanks, Ketan From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 14 August 2020 18:24 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel M. Halpern ; Alexander Vainshtein ; Shraddha Hegde ; ext-andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com ; Robert Raszuk Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] Spring protection

Re: [spring] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-08 (OSPFv2 flex algo)

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
To: Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; Shraddha Hegde ; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Gulko, Arkadiy (Refinitiv) Cc: SPRING WG Subject: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-08 (OSPFv2 flex algo) Note : Discussion is not about FAPM. For flex algorithm

Re: [spring] Spring protection - determining applicability

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
refix SID. Thus, we cannot assume that when PHP is used, then the SID is only associated with a topological instruction. Hope that clarifies? Thanks, Ketan From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 14 August 2020 20:24 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel M. Halpern ; Shraddha Hegde ; ext-andre

Re: [spring] [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
< also copying Spring WG for their review/inputs > Hi Thomas/All, I have reviewed the draft and would like to share a different perspective. What or how much value be there on determining whether a SR Prefix SID was signalled/programmed on a node via OSPFv2/OSPFv3/ISIS - what matters and is mo

Re: [spring] [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type

2020-08-14 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
2020 09:40 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; han...@gredler.at Cc: l...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; ops...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type Hi Ketan, Thank you very much for the review and feedback. * What or how much value be there on determining whether a SR

Re: [spring] [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type

2020-08-16 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Thomas, Please check inline below. From: thomas.g...@swisscom.com Sent: 15 August 2020 11:31 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; han...@gredler.at Cc: l...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; ops...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type Hi Ketan, * This helps

Re: [spring] Comments on SR policy

2020-08-17 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Zhenqiang Li, Please check inline below. From: li_zhenqi...@hotmail.com Sent: 18 August 2020 06:42 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; spring@ietf.org; draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy Subject: Re: RE: Comments on SR policy Hello Ketan, Thank you for your response. For question No

Re: [spring] [Lsr] draft-tgraf-ipfix-mpls-sr-label-type

2020-08-18 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
stency between forwarding and control plane to determine which protocol/label is being used and lot's more details. Thanks, Ketan From: thomas.g...@swisscom.com Sent: 18 August 2020 18:28 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; han...@gredler.at Cc: l...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; ops...@ietf.org

Re: [spring] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-04

2020-08-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Rajesh, Please check inline below. From: spring On Behalf Of Rajesh M Sent: 27 August 2020 12:26 To: gdawra.i...@gmail.com; Clarence Filsfils (cfilsfil) ; rob...@raszuk.net; bruno.decra...@orange.com; zhuangshun...@huawei.com; jorge.raba...@nokia.com Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring

Re: [spring] to drop or to forward unlabelled (Re: Question on RFC8660)

2020-08-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Martin, I share your position. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of Martin Horneffer Sent: 27 August 2020 16:05 To: spring@ietf.org Subject: [spring] to drop or to forward unlabelled (Re: Question on RFC8660) Hello everyone, may I come back the the question be

Re: [spring] [Idr] questions about draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-03

2020-09-09 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi PSF and Cheng, Please check inline below. From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 07 September 2020 09:49 To: peng.sha...@zte.com.cn; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: i...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Idr] questions about draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-03 Hi PSF and Ketan, IMHO, the SRv6

Re: [spring] [Idr] questions about draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext-03

2020-09-09 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Sure. We can make this editorial change on the next update. Thanks, Ketan From: Chengli (Cheng Li) Sent: 09 September 2020 13:01 To: peng.sha...@zte.com.cn; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: i...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: RE: Re:[spring] [Idr] questions about draft-ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-01 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello All, We have just posted an update for the draft and following is the summary of changes: 1) Introduction of the Composite Candidate Path construct to address a pending comment from the WG (Ref : https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/fEqE5TOwdh2vEyFm_MEjiXyP2ws/ and https://maila

Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gandhi-spring-twamp-srpm-11

2020-11-01 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello All, I support the adoption of this work for performance monitoring in SR networks that leverages TWAMP. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: 22 October 2020 18:22 To: spring@ietf.org Cc: ippm-cha...@ietf.org; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WG Adoption C

Re: [spring] WG Adoption Call for https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gandhi-spring-stamp-srpm-03

2020-11-01 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello All, I support the adoption of this work for performance monitoring in SR networks that leverages STAMP encoding. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: 22 October 2020 18:22 To: spring@ietf.org Cc: ippm-cha...@ietf.org; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] WG A

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-07 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your comments and it was indeed the motivation for this solution for the use-case brought forward. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Sent: 06 November 2020 00:45 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-10 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Pavan, Please check inline below. From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: 10 November 2020 00:08 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt Ketan, Much Thanks for taking a stab at addressing the composite

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-10 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Pavan, Please check inline below. From: Vishnu Pavan Beeram Sent: 11 November 2020 00:26 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt Ketan, Hi! Please see inline for responses (prefixed VPB). Regards

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-11 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your inputs and feedback. Please check inline below. From: Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Sent: 12 November 2020 04:46 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-09.txt

2020-11-13 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
steering mechanisms and how and where to use them in their networks. Thanks, Ketan From: Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Sent: 13 November 2020 04:42 To: Tarek Saad ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Vishnu Pavan Beeram Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring

Re: [spring] [Idr] IPR Call and WG Adoption for draft-qin-idr-sr-policy-ifit-04.txt (11/1/2020 to 11/16/2020)

2020-11-13 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Giuseppe, First of all, thanks for making the updates to the document to clarify the objective and applicability of IFIT and this draft extensions specifically to the SR Policy signalled by BGP. A good part of the puzzle is at least clearer to me now. Sec 3 says (and I am trying to paraphra

Re: [spring] [Idr] IPR Call and WG Adoption for draft-qin-idr-sr-policy-ifit-04.txt (11/1/2020 to 11/16/2020)

2020-11-15 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
cola Sent: 16 November 2020 12:42 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Susan Hares ; i...@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Idr] IPR Call and WG Adoption for draft-qin-idr-sr-policy-ifit-04.txt (11/1/2020 to 11/16/2020) Hi Ketan, Thanks a lot for your revision. My answers inline tagged as [GF

[spring] Regd reserving block of colors values (draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy)

2020-12-11 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello All, We had the discussion, both on the list before the IETF 109 as well as during the WG session at IETF 109, regarding some sort of an allocation or reservation of a block/range of color values on the routers. This range may be for either local use on the routers (i.e. not used for stee

Re: [spring] RTG-DIR review of draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-05

2021-03-09 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, Thanks a lot for your detailed review, your comments/feedback and for taking time for discussions with the co-authors for their resolution. We’ve just posted an update of the draft to address your comments based on our discussions : https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-b

Re: [spring] RTG-DIR review of draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-05

2021-03-10 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
document Thanks, Ketan From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 10 March 2021 16:15 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org; b...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw) ; Zafar Ali (zali) ; rtg-...@ietf.org; Subject: RE: RTG-DIR review of draft-ietf

Re: [spring] RTG-DIR review of draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services-05

2021-03-10 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Sasha, Indeed your version is better and we’ll put that in on the next draft update. Thanks, Ketan From: Alexander Vainshtein Sent: 10 March 2021 19:40 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: draft-ietf-bess-srv6-services@ietf.org; b...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org; Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw

Re: [spring] IPR Call for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-11 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello, I am not aware of any IPR related to this document other than the ones that have been already disclosed. Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of James Guichard Sent: 11 April 2021 16:04 To: SPRING WG Cc: spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: [spring] IPR Call for draft-ietf-spring-segment-ro

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Pablo, Thank for your review and we've just posted an update that addresses the IANA changes pointed out by you. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-10.txt Thanks, Ketan From: spring On Behalf Of Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) Sent: 27 April 2021 18:06 To:

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-10.txt

2021-04-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hello All, This is mainly a refresh but also fixes editorial nits, updates references and fixes a minor correction in the IANA section. Thanks, Ketan -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 28 April 2021 10:30 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: spring@iet

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-27 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Boris, Thanks for your review and feedback. Did you imply that we add an implementation status section in the draft? Or are you suggesting that the chairs poll for implementation and deployment status? I ask because the Implementation Status section is generally removed before publication a

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-28 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Andrew, Thanks for your review and comments. We can update that text to clarify as below: When BGP SR Policy is the Protocol-Origin, the BGP process receiving the route provides the distinguisher (refer to Section 2.1 of [I-D.ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy]) as the discriminator. I’ll

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Dhruv, Thanks for your detail review and great comments/feedback. Please check inline bellow. From: spring On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody Sent: 29 April 2021 11:51 To: James Guichard Cc: spring@ietf.org; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-polic

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Dhruv, Please check inline below. From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 29 April 2021 15:46 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: James Guichard ; spring@ietf.org; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy Hi Ketan, Thanks for the discussion. Sniping to

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-29 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Satoru-san, Thanks for your review and comment. I believe your point is to also cover SRv6 BSID and to that I would propose the following text : When the active candidate path has a specified BSID, the SR Policy uses that BSID if this value (label in MPLS, IPv6 address in SRv6) is available

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-30 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi Dhruv, Please check inline below. From: Dhruv Dhody Sent: 30 April 2021 11:43 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Cc: James Guichard ; spring@ietf.org; spring-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy Hi Ketan Thanks for handling the comments. Just

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-30 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
comments along with others received during this WGLC. Thanks, Ketan From: Gyan Mishra Sent: 30 April 2021 13:01 To: Dhruv Dhody Cc: James Guichard ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; spring-cha...@ietf.org; spring@ietf.org Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy Dear

Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy

2021-04-30 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
: 30 April 2021 11:43 To: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) mailto:ket...@cisco.com>> Cc: James Guichard mailto:james.n.guich...@futurewei.com>>; spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>; spring-cha...@ietf.org<mailto:spring-cha...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC for draft-ietf

Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-11.txt

2021-04-30 Thread Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)
Hi All, This version includes the updates for the WGLC comments as discussed on the list. Thanks, Ketan (on behalf of co-authors) -Original Message- From: spring On Behalf Of internet-dra...@ietf.org Sent: 30 April 2021 19:25 To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: spring@ietf.org Subject: [spr

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