FM Global

2007-12-11 Thread Matt Willis
This came in on one of my alerts. Fm Global will be on the History Channel on Sunday morning, Dec. 16, 2007, at 8 a.m. ET/PT The link did not work, but a simple search will get you any one of the press releases. One item they are highlighting, is the standard fire sprinkler from 1953, the

foam oops

2007-12-11 Thread Tambini, Ed
found this on CNN.com http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/12/10/foam.mishap.in.hanga r.cnn ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send

RE: ESFR Pressure Anomaly

2007-12-11 Thread Mike Brown (TECH- GVL)
Understood and agree. My point is that testing and engineering can be used as a tool but do not throw out the baby with the bath water. Some of the old guys that wrote NFPA 13 were quite good. I forgot Polybuthlene and PozLock piping which were listed and tested etc. but were removed from

RE: foam oops

2007-12-11 Thread Chris Cahill
Saw this once at the NY Air National hanger for C5A's. It could hold 2 at a time. A Guardsman smelled smoke and called control. They told him pull the alarm. Well, the manual dump for the foam was blue and the fire alarm was red. They were right next to each other. He pulled the wrong one.

Re: Most Remote Point

2007-12-11 Thread Ron Greenman
Bill, How important is this? Until yesterday we were only concerned that the system tripped (which in reality would have left the IT anywhere since the air decompresses evenly) and that there was no debris in the system which would work its way to the opening. Oh and that water delivery was

RE: foam oops

2007-12-11 Thread Russell
We installed a foam system with monitors for a C130 hangar and on the day of the test six big brass and the base commander wanted to see it happen. Everyone was lined up in front of the hangar about 50 ft. back. The system was tripped and the foam grew larger and larger until it piled out the

RE: Most Remote Point

2007-12-11 Thread bill . brooks
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Re: Most Remote Point

2007-12-11 Thread Joe Hankins
Ron, We were always concerned about delivering water in no more than 1 minute. (The 30% dry system penalty was based 1 minute delivery) The assumption in 13 was that a 500 gal system (or 750 with an accelerator) would meet that requirement. Turned out to be a bad assumption. This also

RE: Most Remote Point

2007-12-11 Thread Mike Brown (TECH- GVL)
If you are interested I have a document that I call Rules of Thumb for designing large dry systems that might be helpful. Not engineering but just old time rules that I learned at Automatic many years ago. If you will send me your email address at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be happy to share

Looking for a contact

2007-12-11 Thread G. Tim Stone
I am looking to make contact with a sprinkler system designer James Larkin. Please contact off the forum at the address below Thank you in advance. G. Tim Stone TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: foam oops

2007-12-11 Thread Coastal
Hello Russell, I had a CoE guy insist the Abort on a HUGH Co2 system would abort a manual Pull Station. Lucky there was a 55 gallon drum under the overhead door for us to get out of when that 10' diameter x 30' long Co2 Tank dumped. My truck was about 10' outside that door. It ended up with 6