George,
Does the Quell system require higher overhead densities than the dry systems
with in-rack sprinklers? I am wondering because I have an owner who has an
existing system in a cheese storage facility and can't use the racks because
they keep hit the in-rack sprinklers.
Thanks,
Randy Knutson
I hope the manual valve is a long way off, and upwind.
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Viking had a real good design guide. Got it on PDF and old fashioned paper.
There are several variables that need to be determined before distances are
established. But 2-3 ft was generally the norm in most (not all) cases.
First thing to consider is whether water spray is the appropriate medi
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I acquired a design guide to special hazards several years ago from a
company I used to work for.
In it they recommend approx. 2'-0" for vessels either horz or vert.
This guide was written back in 1987, not sure if it's changed since I
haven't designed one in quite some time.
Bryan A. Dann
Dannba
Charles,
I recently wrestled with something similar (pun
intended). I am working on a project where the
gym will have a poured rubber floor,
approximately 1/2" thick. I looked at the MSDS
for the product and the flame spread was less
than 25 and was shown not to sustain combustion
on its ow
Is there any hibachi cooking going on in this area?Oh never
mind
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
[EMAIL P
I wouldn't consider the floor material in this case to be an additional
hazard warranting a change in the sprinkler density.
Wrestling mats are often rolled-up and stored against walls; their
less-dense composition could arguably add to a fire even when flat on
the floor. But the high density rub
a wrestling room with pads stacked to 12 feet while
they someone is playing dodge-ball is different
than a weight room with heavy-rubber mats to 1 inch
(effective height almost 0 inch) by virtue of only
being exposed at the upper surface (in most places).
Not an extreme increase in fire ha
Any advise on how far to place fixed system
deluge nozzles from the equipment hazard?
Equipment is steel tank with Class II liquids.
Lowest level of liquid accumulation is ground level
Highest level of liquid accumulation is ground level
Most probably level of liquid is 15 ft above ground
Feet and
sorry-- forgot the name...
Any advise on how far to place fixed system
deluge nozzles from the equipment hazard?
scot deal
excelsior fire engineering
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First, Happy Holidays! Thanks for the gift(s) of knowledge this past year!!
Now, another present if you will… Have a situation, how does the hazard
classification look at a Workout Facility / Gym scenario where the flooring
material are those 24” x 24” (or whatever dimension) hard rub
And there are site-specific requirements, such as a 3-story hotel that had
limited access around the back, and the local FD accepted this contingent on
installation of SPs.
We're also finishing up an Independent Living facility were the Owner
elected to voluntarily have a standpipe system in their
In addition to Paul's reference to building height (905.3.1) there is a
references in the IBC to Group A occupancies (905.3.2), Covered Malls
(905.3.3), Stages (905.3.4), Underground Buildings (905.3.5), Heliports
(905.3.6), Marinas & Boatyards (905.3.7) and in New Jersey, Building
Area/Fire Depart
Karen,
You might also check with the local AHJ, as some situations and
conditions are designated as requiring
standpipes by local codes which are not directly related to IBC or IFC
language.
As an example, there's a district here in Southern California which
requires all multi-family buildin
That is going to be in the building code. If you are using the IBC, the
height of the building dictates the necessity of standpipes.
Paul J. Pinigis, P.E.
Chief Life Safety Engineer
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Thank you everyone. It helps if you look in the correct code book :).
Karen Purvis
Designer
Facility Systems Consultants
714 S Gay St
Knoxville, TN 37902
ph.865-246-0164
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IBC or your local building code.
Merry CHRISTmas,
Greg
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC
1160 McKenzie Road
Cantonment, FL 32533
850-937-1850
Fax: 850-937-1852
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Generally its when the top occupied floor is 30' above the lowest level of
FD entrance that a SP is required under IBC.
glc
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Check section 905 of the IFC or IBC.
Remember generally speaking the building code tells you when it's
required and the NFPA standards tell you how to do it.
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection Group
Mechanical Department
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
PO Box 491, Spartanburg,
It's found in chapter 9 of the IBC. The building code will provide the when
to sprinkler or provide standpipes and NFPA 13 & 14 will tell how to do it.
Joe Burtell, SET, CFPS
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I have a question for anyone working today. There is a code somewhere that
states when a standpipe must be used. I have searched through NFPA 14 and 13
and can not find the code. Does anyone know what and where that information
is?
Karen Purvis
Designer
Facility Systems Consultants
714 S Gay St
Kn
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