Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread bcasterline
"Just one more thing" ~Columbo~ Thanks Anthony for 'nice outside the box idea' comment. "sometimes it takes a Jimi thing just to keep me swinging" ~Dave Mathews~ With apologies to Tom Noble and Roland Huggins. Brad ___ Sprinklerforum mailing

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Ben Young
There's only two things I've found that your can't get for pressures over 175 psi: any backflow preventer and floor control valves from Tyco. One of the jurisdictions here mandate backflow on the discharge side of the pump On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM Mark.Phelps wrote: > Hi Dwayne, > I'm

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Mark.Phelps
Hi Dwayne, I'm curious what your pump rep would recommend if the impeller is damaged by a stone or other foreign object. Mark at Aero 602 820-7894 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent:

RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Dewayne Martinez
43psi static now, 78(low tower) to 84psi static future. Need 100psi @ 1500gpm to make the system work now. 6x4x2 1/2" grid with 9psi cushion. One option I can work on is to see if I can make it work with both water supplies if I go with a smaller pump to keep the churn pressure under 175psi and

RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Don Casey
USD??? Ouch is right. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Dewayne Martinez Sent: 2018/07/17 2:35 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Dewayne Martinez Subject: RE: PRV after pump discharge control

RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Dewayne Martinez
My pump rep confirmed that changing the impeller was a no-go. He also had mentioned the VFD controller but was quoting a huge cost (108K...ouch). Dewayne Martinez Fire Protection Design Manager TOTAL Mechanical Building Integrity W234 N2830 Paul Rd. Pewaukee, WI 53072

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Rod DiBona
3rd, really miss that guy. Learned a lot from him. Rod at Rapid -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mark.Phelps Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 5:59 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Ron Greenman
Before we get done praising George, beating each other up and being off topic can I please, since so many of you are on this thread, once again beseech you all to ALWAYS include the edition of NFPA 12345 or whatever you are asking about. Have you ever been to one of those stores where paying is an

RE: Excessive Vibration of Pressure Relief Valve

2018-07-17 Thread Brad Casterline
Thanks Matt and Tom. There will be an expert (i.e., not me) checking it out on site tomorrow and I will see about sharing the diagnosis here soon. Brad From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Tom Duross Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:52 AM

RE: Excessive Vibration of Pressure Relief Valve

2018-07-17 Thread Tom Duross
Have a vibration analysis performed. That will indicate balance, soft foot, alignment, bearing, even natural frequency as the source. To bad we're so far away from each other. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matt Grise Sent: Tuesday,

RE: Excessive Vibration of Pressure Relief Valve

2018-07-17 Thread Matt Grise
Is the drain piping well supported? It would be worth checking to see if the motor is vibrating the pipe. Matt From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 8:09 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Excessive Vibration of Pressure Relief

RE: Excessive Vibration of Pressure Relief Valve

2018-07-17 Thread Brad Casterline
A little more info: I am being told the horizontal and vertical displacement due to vibration is about 5/8" and that this is unacceptable. The valve and discharge pipe size is per the chart, not calculated as allowed. The arrangement is Valve, flanged 90 looking down, spool piece to

RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: PRV after pump discharge control valve

2018-07-17 Thread Charles Thurston
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