RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: Converting from ESFR to CMDA - Spacing Issues

2018-10-08 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
I think you're right. It just doesn't seem like that should be the case. How can this spacing allowance be appropriate for the notoriously unforgiving ESFR criteria, but somehow not OK for the traditionally much more forgiving standard spray sprinklers. Or that Factory Mutual, who you could say

RE: Converting from ESFR to CMDA - Spacing Issues

2018-10-08 Thread MFP Design, LLC
FM allows it because all of their sprinklers are "storage" sprinklers. It doesn't matter if it is CMDA, CMSA or ESFR, it is a "storage" sprinkler for FM so the extended requirements are in play. I don't think you will find any forgiveness on this issue in 13. Every time we've dealt with this

Converting from ESFR to CMDA - Spacing Issues

2018-10-08 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
We're looking at a project where a portion of an existing ESFR building is being converted to store cartooned expanded plastics. It looks like we've settled on a design criteria that involves changing out the sprinklers at the deck to 11.2K standard spray sprinklers at a 0.45 density and adding

Re: Protection of feed mains in unsprinklered areas

2018-10-08 Thread Ron Greenman
I don't think 8.16.4.3 applies at all. I don't think there is anything in 13 that actually does apply as 13 requires sprinklers everywhere except where omitted by 13 (4.1). Limited (partial) systems are addressed in 4.2. Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com 253.576.9700 The Universe is