Re: 13 R in a single family home

In Washington, there was a guy that required conformance to 24 in stand-alone 13D installations even though it isn't referenced. He was fine with poly, PVC, CPVC, or orange CPVC if it was any type of system that was a combination of plumbing or fire. Ron Greenman rongreen...@gmail.com 253.576.9

RE: 13 R in a single family home

For a home worth multiple millions a 10 minute water supply for life safety may not be the best answer for property values. There may be insurance savings to help pay for the extra cost for 13R. Local requirements for high value homes may be the better value for the sprinkler system. Art Tiroly

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Great synopsis. Thank you Ken!! Rod DiBona Chief Operating Officer Rapid Fire Protection Group 1530 Samco Road Rapid City, SD 57702 Office-605-348-2342 Cell- 605-391-3553 www.rapidfireinc.com www.rfpg.com (coming soon) -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Ken Wagone

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Adding a few logs to this fire I have to share that the comment by Matt is very accurate. I've dealt with many AHJ's here in California who when pushed over some issue on a single family home have responded with, "Just do a 13R system," without truly understanding the difference.  Here are a f

RE: 13 R in a single family home

Common theme seems to be Townhomes. Just wanted throw this out.., Beware the subtle shift from 13D to 13R. It is more than just going from a 2 head calc to a possible 4 head calc and larger pipe. 13D is very careful to use the word "Pump" only. NFPA 20 is not referenced in Chapter 2. 13R...,

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We're working on a project right now in San Diego with four 4-story townhomes in a row and it's been code classified as R2; we're designing per NFPA 13 on that one. Steve L. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mar

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San Francisco. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 8:06 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Kyle.Montgomery Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: 13 R in a single family home Out of curiosity, where are

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Townhomes with "habitable" space in loft. R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Bobby via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 9:12 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Bobby ; Kyle.Montgomery Subject: Re: 13 R in a single family home Flo

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Florida Beach areas Bobby Gillett Seago Fire Protection 850-217-3899 From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 10:05:40 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Kyle.Montgomery Subject: RE: 1

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Out of curiosity, where are people building single family homes that 4+ stories? I don't think I've ever seen one. -Kyle M -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:27 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprin

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Ahh. Excellent catch for us. Other requirements had me as well on mine. Thanks for the assist! R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Steven Jenkins via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 7:49 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Steven

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Take a look at the scope of 2015 IRC. 2015 IRC 101.2, "...not more than three stories above grade plane in height." Then take a look at 2015 IBC Table 504.4 And of course local adoptions will differ, so definitely talk to the permitting AHJ. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum O

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I am going with no. IRC kicks to Plumbing code OR 13D. 13 D being a life safety system, does not care about height. Local adoptions may differ. R/ Matt -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Matthew J Willis via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 6:35 AM To:

RE: 13 R in a single family home

I am actually int the IRC right this minute looking for the same thing I have seen nothing either. Will keep you posted. Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP Design Manager /3-D Specialist Rapid Fire Protection Inc. 1530 Samco Road Rapid City, SD 57702 Office-605.348.2342 Direct Line-605.593.5063 Cell-605.

13 R in a single family home

I am being informed the International Residential Code has a provision requiring a NFPA 13R system in a single family residence four stories or more in height. Admittedly, this is the first time I've heard of this in my career. I am scanning through the IRC and am not able to locate this provisio