[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Just because you ‘can’t’ put those things in recycling or in trash doesn’t stop anyone from doing it anyway. The reality is that people no longer follow rules and everything you can imagine ends up in the trash and the recycling. I don’t care what has been legislated against. The world I

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Huh? I said that your prescription assumed certain things. I also suggested that the owner be put on record as to whether those certain things were going to be required or not. It’s very possible that higher hazard commodities can be found in facilities like this and if they are, THEN

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Sorry gang. Silly me for bringing reality into the thread. Carry on. From: Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 12:59 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions Respectfully, this sounds

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Test

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[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Tim, Try looking at FM Global Data Sheet 8-7 (Baled Fiber Storage) or Data Sheet 8-22 (Storage of Baled Waste Paper) which has some Fire Sprinkler protection Information. I know they are more stringent then NFPA but its a starting (or ending) point. There are other Data sheets that might cover

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Floor Zone Control Assemblies

Tim Check FPA1 I believe I it does but only required control valves for each level so the whole building does not have to be shut down. Buildings up to 4 stories can be considered one zone for the sprinkler system. Each floor should be zoned through the detection

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Tim Have you checked the FM Standards. They seem to have more information on specialty hazards. Just a thought Dick From: tston...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2023 11:44 AM To:

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Respectfully, this sounds like overkill. The project is described as entailing “plastics, paper/cardboard and metal.” Reading Li and propane into it changes everything and depending on the state, you can’t process gas cylinders or Li or even computer-related wastes in general

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

Todd, I will call you. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

The fire protection in this building and for this hazard should involve a fire protection engineer. There will be lithium batteries, one pound propane tanks, and more. Early detection and activation, as well as interlocks on equipment, in a very dusty environment should be considered. If it is

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

I did one of these a while back. There is no good information in the Standards about this (unless there is something new). The problem is this could end up as a deep seated fire and the only real way to extinguish it is to pull all of the stuff out, look for hot spots and hit them

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Commodity Classification questions

You will have exposed Group A Plastics in the storage area *Glen Bue**low* *Glen W. Buelow, Inc.* *Fire Protection Design and Consulting216-469-7390** <330.665.4439>* On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:46 AM wrote: > A local Solid Waste Company is building a new warehouse style building for >

[Sprinklerforum] Commodity Classification questions

A local Solid Waste Company is building a new warehouse style building for receiving, Sorting, Bailing and short term storage of recyclables. Mechanical Sorting (Roughly 40,000 SF), will be used to sort Plastics, Paper/Cardboard and metal. Storage will consist Bailed Paper, Bailed Plastic and

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Floor Zone Control Assemblies

Not required-at least in 2016 edition. Local code adoptions may exceed that. Taylor Schumacher Security Fire Sprinkler 1 Industrial Blvd | Sauk Rapids, MN 56379 Office: 320.656.0847 | Direct: 320.640.7050 From: tston...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2023 7:53

[Sprinklerforum] Floor Zone Control Assemblies

Floor Zone Control Assemblies in Multistory buildings exceeding 2 stories in height are required in accordance with NFPA 13. Is this also required in residential buildings designed in accordance with NFPA 13R? The building in question is 3 stories and of wood frame construction. Regards,