Re: system review, now Pelosi

2009-02-27 Thread bigtnp
Although I can understand and respect the politically correct nature of this response, I find it totally pelosi.  I think that the term is appropriate and here to stay. Tom Prymak -Original Message- From: David de Vries ddevr...@firetecheng.net To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org

Re: Re[2]: Old Escutcheons and replacing them

2009-01-22 Thread bigtnp
Hi Ron, You are absolutely correct.? When furnished, the holes in the base of the escutcheon are extremely important.? These appear in a lot of concealed assemblies, and any space between the flat plat and the ceiling allows heat to enter the back of the assembly.? When provided, the holes

Re: Re[2]: Old Escutcheons and replacing them

2009-01-21 Thread bigtnp
I have watched this discussion for about two days, and I can't resist chiming in - As an ex-manufacturer, one of the reasons that the recessed are listed as an assembly is that they pass testing that way.? If you mix another manufacturer's escutcheons, there is no guarantee that the correct

Re: Its tough getting old

2008-05-23 Thread bigtnp
For what it is worth - I agree with Roland on this.? The one point that is important is that if elevations were taken into account, the results for converting ot a 'K' factor are not valid.? The elevation loss will always be constant - if it is a 10 ft. elevation, the loss will be 4.33 psi.?

Re: Residential Sprinklers and Beam Obstructions

2008-05-07 Thread bigtnp
Hi Mark, Your questions about the intent an function, even with some blocked spray pattern were concerns during the sloped and beamed ceiling testing that was done.? The Tyco sloped and?beamed ceiling testing is posted under? the 'Literature' drop down on the Tyco website at