[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-06 Thread Ron Greenman
I think this situation fails to fall under the guidance of any code or standard. I think the owner needs to define what he is trying to accomplish since he seems to be the driver for this voluntary solution to a vaguely defined problem. The building code already demands a more robust fire

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-06 Thread Tony Silva
I think it is reasonable to consider it as a 13D system with a variance to omit sprinklers in all areas other than the garage. Tony On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 11:12 AM Sean Lockyer wrote: > I have an interesting situation here: A homeowner has an electric car and > an electric car charger in her

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Kyle . Montgomery
3 12:27 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere Sean, I'll parrot everyone else with needing to CYA with thorough documentation but do want to go against the g

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread matthew.willis1
36-8249 matthew.will...@ferguson.com<mailto:matthew.will...@ferguson.com> www.FergusonFire.com<http://www.fergusonfire.com/> From: Eric Rieve Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 3:27 PM To: Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprink

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Eric Rieve
Sean, I'll parrot everyone else with needing to CYA with thorough documentation but do want to go against the grain a bit and opine that any level of sprinkler protection is going to add to the life-safety of the dwelling even if we all know it won't actually control a Li-Ion battery

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Fpdcdesign
Ken, you are way too eloquent. My thought was a hydraulic alarm actuation system. I recently did a project at a facility with rack storage of Li batteries. I had to go through all of the data and research to try and figure where to start. Given what I learned, even a

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Ken Wagoner
Sean, Permit me to completely endorse the previous comments from Brett and Chris. Let me also add this - there is great value when someone is asking for a design which is both contrary to the applicable standard, and does not address the possible concerns for a fire in the occupancy in

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Chris Dorn
The amount of water that you will get out of a three-quarter inch water line will be useless in trying to fight an electric vehicle fire. Christopher Dorn Dorn Fire Protection LLC 4132 Dumont Street #4 Cincinnati, Ohio 45226 (513) 295-2499 On Jul 5, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Brett Peters wrote:  I

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Optional sprinkler protection in garage without sprinklers elsewhere

2023-07-05 Thread Brett Peters
I would ask the AHJ what it is that they are expecting the sprinklers to protect, if they they are looking for protection of the Lithium batteries than that's not going to be possible and I would recommend putting that in bold lettering of all correspondence that residential sprinkler designs are