Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-22 Thread Todd Williams
If the heat collectors are 16 ft x 22 ft and the sprinkler is in the center of it, 6 below the collector, it would probably have an impact on response time. At 07:06 PM 4/21/2011, you wrote: Randy, Go back and tell him we used to pipe schedule every system as well, and suggest he could pay

RE: Heat collectors

2011-04-22 Thread George Church
Ok, there were heat collectors in the old ASCOA special hazards manual, however they were intended to be for our HADs. Back in the day of mercury checksboy, what we didn't know then. However, 25 ms response was achieved, gotta give some credit for that! I have heard using

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-22 Thread Charles Thurston
Hello George, and I thought I was the only one around old enough to have had to deal with HADs Friday, April 22, 2011, 8:40:25 AM, you wrote: Ok, there were heat collectors in the old ASCOA special hazards manual, however they were intended to be for our HADs. Back in the day of mercury

RE: Heat collectors

2011-04-22 Thread Thom
...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Randy Knutson Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Heat collectors I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-22 Thread Ron Greenman
Subject: Heat collectors I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We have to protect an exterior balcony on an 13R system and the upper balcony has a ceiling that is quite a bit higher than the warm area on the upper floor. The GC is trying

Heat collectors

2011-04-21 Thread Randy Knutson
I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We have to protect an exterior balcony on an 13R system and the upper balcony has a ceiling that is quite a bit higher than the warm area on the upper floor. The GC is trying to have us use heat

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-21 Thread John Drucker
:23 2011 Subject: Heat collectors I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We have to protect an exterior balcony on an 13R system and the upper balcony has a ceiling that is quite a bit higher than the warm area on the upper floor. The GC

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-21 Thread Ron Greenman
wrote: I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We have to protect an exterior balcony on an 13R system and the upper balcony has a ceiling that is quite a bit higher than the warm area on the upper floor. The GC is trying to have us

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-21 Thread ParsleyConsulting
CONSULTING Ken Wagoner, SET 760.745.6181 voice 760.745.0537 fax parsleyconsult...@cox.net mailto:parsleyconsult...@cox.nete-mail www.ParsleyConsulting.com http://www.ParsleyConsulting.comwebsite On 4/21/2011 3:47 PM, Randy Knutson wrote: I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been

Re: Heat collectors

2011-04-21 Thread Ron Greenman
On 4/21/2011 3:47 PM, Randy Knutson wrote: I know Heat Collectors Are you crazy? Have they ever been allowed in any addition of NFPA? We have to protect an exterior balcony on an 13R system and the upper balcony has a ceiling that is quite a bit higher than the warm area on the upper

Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls

2010-12-27 Thread Brad Casterline
is always twice as good as half. The activation difference is only a few seconds but I can see a fire fighters OK dream turn into a nightmare over a few seconds! I think draft-stops should go the way of heat collectors, which BTW, would work if we turned them vertical, extended them from

RE: Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls

2010-12-27 Thread Shelton, Eric
   F 540.857.3180 -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:18 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls

RE: Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls

2010-12-27 Thread Brad Casterline
, a full pattern is always twice as good as half. The activation difference is only a few seconds but I can see a fire fighters OK dream turn into a nightmare over a few seconds! I think draft-stops should go the way of heat collectors, which BTW, would work if we turned them vertical, extended them

RE: Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls

2010-12-27 Thread Shelton, Eric
Of Brad Casterline Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:37 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Draft-stops, heat collectors, sidewalls And just when I figured out why they were not allowed there! Is there any commentary or reasoning or tests? -Original Message- From: Shelton

Heat Collectors

2009-10-27 Thread Larry Shulman
This may be of interest: http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pdf/coffee-break/cb_fp_2009_43.pdf ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical