Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
t > > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum On > Behalf Of Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:13 PM > To: Prahl, Craig/GVL ; > sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: Bob Caputo ; John Denhardt < > jdenha.

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Hinson, Ryan via Sprinklerforum
raig/GVL ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Bob Caputo ; John Denhardt Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material Not to mention it's a horrible practice in my opinion Bob Caputo, President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Prahl, Craig/G

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material While NFPA 24 may not restrict the use or installation of certain materials, the manufacture's listing data may in fact restrict the use. It's a good idea to review the listing of the material to see what restrictions may apply to its use. Also, some Risk Groups

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL ; John Denhardt Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material The prior editions of NFPA 24 do not restrict the use of non-metallic spigot pieces (riser coming up through the floor from the underground piping) I discovered

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:47 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL ; John Denhardt Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material Thanks for the additional comments John, oh and BTW, I guess

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-07-06 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
ay, July 6, 2021 11:22 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Cc: John Denhardt > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material > > Looking at Craig's comments directly, I want to provide some information. > *(in blue bold)* > > 1. Go to the manufacturer's data and

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-07-06 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
On Behalf Of John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:22 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: John Denhardt Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material Looking at Craig's comments directly, I want to provide some information. *(in blue bold)* 1. Go

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-07-06 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
Looking at Craig's comments directly, I want to provide some information. *(in blue bold)* 1. Go to the manufacturer's data and see if it is listed to be installed above grade per UL and/or FM as a fire riser. * I am not aware of many nonmetallic underground materials which are Listed for a fire

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-06-29 Thread Ken Wagoner via Sprinklerforum
To repeat Steve's comment, Craig, in California unless the pipe was in a concrete tunnel, it would not be permitted to be installed with any fittings under the foundation, which forces the use of the in-building-riser. The 90 at the end of the line, transitioning to above grade could not be

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-06-29 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
I think the question was related to the material, not the height of the extension above the slab. 1. Go to the manufacturer's data and see if it is listed to be installed above grade per UL and/or FM as a fire riser. 2. Exposure to elevated temperatures such as in a fire event can cause