Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Ron Greenman
olved with, with each member of the Deacons > driving changes during the project. > An architect was quoted "construction is largely a matter of who to > blame". Not someone I am looking to work with. > > Bv > > -Original message- > From: herb schairbaum &g

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Bruce Verhei
looking to work with. Bv -Original message- From: herb schairbaum To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 16:29:10 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Domestic Materials I would suggest the entire construction industry is this way. How many times have I heard horror stori

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Mike Cabral
ike Cabral Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Cc: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Domestic Materials The standard can say whatever it wants. Bottom line is that you will end up with two manufactures pointing fingers at each other. It just

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Ice, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:42 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Domestic Materials If the fitting makes a difference there should be 3 couplings. Pipe to pipe, pipe to fitting and fitting to fitting. Ron F -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@fir

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread RFletcher
, February 05, 2013 11:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Cc: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Domestic Materials The standard can say whatever it wants. Bottom line is that you will end up with two manufactures pointing fingers at each other. It just makes it harder to resolve. Not

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Todd Williams
One more quick one: I worked on a project for a new fire house about 15 years ago where domestic materials were required. The Fire Marshal (a dis-barred lawyer) shut down the job and sent a notice of intent to sue to my client because the threaded rod was not STAMPED with "Made in USA". It worked o

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Roland Huggins
A different point but a biggie. Roland On Feb 5, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Mike Cabral wrote: > The standard can say whatever it wants. Bottom line is that you will end up > with two manufactures pointing fingers at each other. It just makes it harder > to resolve. Not my fitting. Not my coupling.

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Mike Cabral
The standard can say whatever it wants. Bottom line is that you will end up with two manufactures pointing fingers at each other. It just makes it harder to resolve. Not my fitting. Not my coupling. Must be workmanship? It's just better from the start if the joint is from the same mfg. Sent f

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Roland Huggins
historically, that was a cold fact. The Installation TC made a change in the 2010 ed on Groove Joining Methods (6.5.3) and then clarified further in the 2013 ed. They basically are saying devices listed to a standardized groove specification shall be considered compatible (2013 ed). The annex

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Ron Greenman
s. > > -Original Message- > From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto: > sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Total Fire - > Colorado > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:44 AM > To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Domestic M

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread herb schairbaum
ys. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Total Fire - Colorado Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:44 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Domestic Materials This is one if the cr

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Total Fire - Colorado
Total Fire System Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™ -Original message- From: Tom Duross To: b...@firebyknight.com, sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 13:34:58 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: Domestic Materials A note of caution regarding mixing manufacturers. Warrantees may

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Tom Duross
A note of caution regarding mixing manufacturers. Warrantees may not cover a Vic elbow with an Anvil coupling for example. TD I have a project that I'm designing that requires domestic materials. I've looked at Viking, TYCO, GruvLok, Victaulic, and a few others. None of them say where they were

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-05 Thread Dominick G. Kasmauskas
Is this for a LEED project or some other domestic requirement? (If a LEED project, LEED Chapter 5, Materials & Resources, read the Gray BoxesŠ"specialties" I think they are called, like mechanical trades are exempt from material and resource requirements. DKNY On 2/4/13 11:27 PM, "herb schairbaum

RE: Domestic Materials

2013-02-04 Thread herb schairbaum
Working for Anvil I know intimately where the Gruvlok is made. I've been through the foundry in PA. Smelted, cast, and finished right in PA, USA. We have official letters from Anvil corp stating that they are all manufactured in the USA from materials manufactured in the USA. Anvil also has an i

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-04 Thread David Canham
If you ask Victaulic for domestic material they can supply it for most if their product line. You will need to provide them with the bid requirements as not all domestic jobs are the same. Depending of size and approving authority the rules for such things as percent and NAFTA agreements vary. T

Re: Domestic Materials

2013-02-04 Thread Mike Cabral
Victaulic is domestic, foundry right there in Easton PA. Tyco also has a domestic foundry in Anniston AL. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 4, 2013, at 6:22 PM, "Bob" wrote: > I have a project that I'm designing that requires domestic materials. I've > looked at Viking, TYCO, GruvLok, Victaulic, a