RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-27 Thread G. Tim Stone
: Dormitory Bunk Beds Tim, I think it is addressed clearly in 8.5.5.3.2 which states that Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are _not_ fixed in place such as conference tables. (emphasis mine) I would think you could make an excellent case that bunk beds are not fixed

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-27 Thread Steve Leyton
Leyton Protection Design Consulting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Drucker Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 6:23 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds Tim, I have to agree with the group. Where

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-27 Thread John Drucker
, February 27, 2008 8:39 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds Thank you for the feedback concerning the moveable bunk beds. You reiterated what I already new. The one thing we have to keep in mind is even though we may not be able to place the sprinkler over the point

Re: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim, I think it is addressed clearly in 8.5.5.3.2 which states that Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are _not_ fixed in place such as conference tables. (emphasis mine) I would think you could make an excellent case that bunk beds are not fixed in place. I agree that

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread Paul Pinigis
8.5.5.3.2 Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are not fixed in place such as conference tables. Paul J. Pinigis, P.E. Chief Life Safety Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. Tim Stone Sent: Tuesday, February

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread Travis Mack, SET
Tim: I ran into this several years back doing a retrofit for a fraternity or dorm (can't remember) for ASU. We were req'd to put the HSW under the upper bunk. We put the head guards on to try to protect it some. It was all exposed. I don't recall hearing any issues where the kids set the

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread Brian Harris
Movable furniture such as Conference tables are referenced and sprinklers would not be required under them. Brian Harris FDFP INC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G. Tim Stone Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:05 PM To:

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread Mike Brown (TECH- GVL)
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:17 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Dormitory Bunk Beds Tim, I think it is addressed clearly in 8.5.5.3.2 which states that Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are _not_ fixed in place

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread Craig.Prahl
Sprinklers below bunk beds? At some point we need to use some reason here. That's probably the reason it isn't specifically addressed. Otherwise what's next, sprinklering in dresser drawers? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Group Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread David Autry
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:17 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Dormitory Bunk Beds Tim, I think it is addressed clearly in 8.5.5.3.2 which states that Sprinklers shall not be required under obstructions that are _not_

RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds

2008-02-26 Thread John Denhardt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Brown (TECH- GVL) Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:31 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Dormitory Bunk Beds Years ago I made all of the arguments that I see you making and the old