Why doesn't the NFPA 13 committee use shading like NFPA 70?
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From: Roland Huggins [rhugg...@firesprinkler.org]
Sent: 04/30/2010 08:24 AM MST
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
Yo
You may have also noticed that the Vertical Bar in the 2010 regular
standard now covers the entire paragraph even when only one word has
changed. I've already discussed returning to a format that reflects
the actual change with NFPA but have not heard a definitive answer.
Your issue with
Ahh yes.too big to fail? Now where have I heard this before..
Happy Friday all!!!
Best Regards,
Ken Holsopple
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> Wilson
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> Don't beat up the Schirmer
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From: George Church
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Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
You mean rhymes with t-ode f-horing?
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Cahill
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:18 AM
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I was very dismayed when I discovered the 2010 had omitted the flags/bars.
It was a huge time saver in the past. I envision a lot of nasty surprises
in the coming years when subtle changes (I had missed) jump up and bite me.
Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO
> If Mr. Huggins and others forum members agre
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David,
Thanks for passing that along.
I wish all jurisdictional authorities has something like that available on
their websites and that if they did it was as easy to find. Sometimes getting
or finding that information is harder than finding hens
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of David Blackwell
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:40 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
1) Speaking of changes, we have already adopted the 2010 editions of NFPA
sprinkler standards:
http
28, 2010 11:27 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
The forum is invaluable and Roland is the man. I'm also impressed by the
restraint of the forumites. Nobody said, "hey dummy it's right there in the
book. Can't you read?&qu
you're vulnerable.
Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Cahill
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:18 AM
To: sprinklerforum@fir
At some point, the engineer has to step up and say "Your goals do not meet
our ethical responsibility to society, so we can't support that type of
design."
The owner will say "If you can't I'll find someone who can!" and they
probably will, but your firm will not be trashed later for just this type
Waverly, MN 55390
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:06 AM
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
ParsleyConsulting
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:41 AM
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Ron,
Steve and I both hit the roof when the vide
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
ParsleyConsulting
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:41 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
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Ron,
Steve and I both hit the roof when the video you're referr
or over 30 years and High rise and assistaant living
for
>> 15-20 years. Now that PA has new codes life safety should get better.
>>
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>> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George
Churc
9, 2010 10:41 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
Ron,
Steve and I both hit the roof when the video you're referring to was
broadcast. One of the representatives for that firm, when discussing
the proposed retrofit installation of fire sprinklers in res
Consulting
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 9:41 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
Ron,
Steve and I both hit the roof when the video you're referring to was
broadcast. One of the representatives for that firm, when discussing
the proposed retrofit i
iresprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
The forum is invaluable and Roland is the man. I'm also impressed by the
restraint of the forumites. Nobody said, "hey dummy it&#x
; 15-20 years. Now that PA has new codes life safety should get better.
>>
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>> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
>> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:10
> 15-20 years. Now that PA has new codes life safety should get better.
>
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> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:10 AM
> To: s
...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 8:10 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
I find it interesting that a firm would recommend we put high density
protection over toys, but
lf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
The forum is invaluable and Roland is the man. I'm also impressed by the
restraint of the forumites. Nobody said, "hey dummy it's right there in the
From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:03 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
And now kids, how valuable is this forum and Rolan
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Ron
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: NFPA #13 changes/additions
The forum is invaluable and Roland is the man. I'm also impressed by the
boun...@firesprinkler.org
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:03 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
And now kids, how valuable is this forum and Roland's knowledge of
that long
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:16 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
>
> The criteria was indeed in the 2002 edition (just not in the first
> printing). Get Errata 02-1 from www.NFPA.org
>
> Roland
>
> On Apr 28, 2010,
, April 28, 2010 10:16 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: NFPA #13 changes/additions
The criteria was indeed in the 2002 edition (just not in the first
printing). Get Errata 02-1 from www.NFPA.org
Roland
On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Fletcher, Ron wrote:
> I am trying to find
The criteria was indeed in the 2002 edition (just not in the first
printing). Get Errata 02-1 from www.NFPA.org
Roland
On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Fletcher, Ron wrote:
> I am trying to find out how a new rule is added into 13 without
> having a
> bar next to it in the margin and without be
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