lation? Sounds like OT work for the
>FM. Do you send your plans to both states? LMAO!
>
>Dave
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>David A. de Vries, P.E., CSP
>Firetech Engineering Incorporated
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>--- On Wed, 5/26/10, Todd Williams wrote:
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>From: Todd Williams
>Subject: RE: Size cons
Thom McMahon, SET
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
In MN w
wrote:
From: Todd Williams
Subject: RE: Size considerations
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 1:25 PM
I still like the jobs in CT where I am asked to meet the MA Building Code.
At 02:17 PM 5/26/2010, you wrote:
>That brings up a great point Jeff. At w
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craig.pr...@ch2m.com
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Subject: RE: Size considerations
My point of referring to NFPA 13 was not to use i
ailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
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To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
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In my case what am I to exactly complain about. 45 pages of really nothing
gives me reason to question IF they are competen
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> > >boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hewitt
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:17 PM
> > >To: sprinklerforum@fire
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:17 PM
> >To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
> >Subject: RE: Size considerations
> >
> >Yes, you do. It is not for you to decide or investigate, let the
> >regulatory
> >agency do their job. If they get enough similar "standard of care"
sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org
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To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Size considerations
In my case what am I to exactly complain about. 45 pages of really nothing
gives me r
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hewitt
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:27 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Size considerations
Ok here's my 2cents on 13 as a spec.
NFPA 13 1.1* S
I agree, and I have. But it seems other PE's are very reluctant to report on
a fellow PE no matter how much he screws up. Yes if it gets to the
regulatory board, they act for the most part fairly, and don't hold back on
sanctioning their own. But why must it always be put on the contractors?
Colora
ives.
Can You Live Without Them?
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:27 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Size considerations
Ok here
Ok here's my 2cents on 13 as a spec.
NFPA 13 1.1* Scope. This standard shall provide the minimum requirements
for the design and installation of automatic fire sprinkler
systems and exposure protection sprinkler systems covered
within this standard.
So saying "Comply with NFPA 13, edition" w
f Ron Greenman
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:23 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: Size considerations
Chris,
The things you missed and perhaps the most important:
Water data
Design criterion (a/d, small room, etc.)
Fire areas
Anything special the owner may want or be required to
e Protection, Inc.
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:27 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Size considerations
Thanks, Thom. That was a great explanation of how we are where we are. I
bet there are plenty of people
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
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To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
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rly, MN 55390
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:14 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Size considerations
While the std. portable pipe mach
While the std. portable pipe machine has its influence on this, and since
that same machine can be used to groove pipe over 2" or under 2", there is a
certain disconnect.
But the reality is that in the 1970's Victaulic did a good job of selling
both contractors and engineers on grooved pipe and fi
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craig.pr...@ch2m.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Size considerations
A lot of it is common misunderstanding of what can be done with what and to
A lot of it is common misunderstanding of what can be done with what and to
what.
Basically most writing the spec don't know that you can groove sch. 40 pipe so
they assume it all must be threaded. The allowance of sch. 10 for the sizes
over 2" is because they assume that all branch lines ar
We thread 2" and under because the portable threading machines can handle up to
2". Also, it is REALLY hard to install threaded pipe that is over 2". The pipe
gets really heavy, the threads are hard to start, and they take a lot of muscle
to tighten. We sometimes groove smaller than 2.5" but onl
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