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Dave
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--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Chris Cahill wrote:
From: Chris Cahill
Subject: Sorority/Fraternity Houses
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Date: Thu
The building code defines. You mentioned protection of frat houses
but did not say what the house in question is used for - such as WHO
was using the house, the duration of stay etc. Noting that the IBC
uses the term when not a single family dwelling (under Boarding House)
it would be a g
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:18 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Sorority/Fraternity Houses
The question is 13D or 13R? This one is just a very
I agree with all the points raised - particularly with the need for solid
hanger support. I'm not sure which editions you are currently using in your
area but I do point out the following:
NFPA 13R-2002 Edition Section 3.3.6 indicates that dormitories are within
the scope of 13R.
NFPA 13D-
Of the half dozen or so I've worked on, all have been 13R. I spent several
years in one of these things (not telling which!) I think a sorority/frat is
way too much of a stretch for a 13D design.
Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO
> The question is 13D or 13R? This one is just a very large single family
Use lots' of hangers, like double especially if your using plastic pipe.
TD
GRS
I have done a few fraternity houses. We have always done them as 13R.
Travis
> Chris,
>
> I consider these to be more like dorms and so 13R. Too many people to
> call it an SFD. These are pretty much over-crowed hou
I have done a few fraternity houses. We have always done them as 13R.
Travis
> Chris,
>
> I consider these to be more like dorms and so 13R. Too many people to
> call it an SFD. These are pretty much over-crowed houses and I think
> there's a lot of egress issues, risky behavior, a transient (not
gards,
Garth
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Cahill"
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Sorority/Fraternity Houses
> The question is 13D or 13R? This one is just a very large single family
> home with ~30 people living there. The use really
Chris,
I consider these to be more like dorms and so 13R. Too many people to
call it an SFD. These are pretty much over-crowed houses and I think
there's a lot of egress issues, risky behavior, a transient (not
street person but more hotel guest) attitude, and a just general
higher fire hazard pot
The question is 13D or 13R? This one is just a very large single family
home with ~30 people living there. The use really is just like a large
"traditional" family or foster home which I wouldn't question as 13D. OK
maybe a little larger in number but not really in use. There is probably an
as
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