RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Brad Casterline
my Motorola ATRIXT 4G on ATT -Original message- From: bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 20:31:30 GMT+00:00 Subject: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Fact: a minimum pressure is required to 'push the stopper out

Re: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread MPhelps
- From: Brad Casterline [mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 06:57 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Good points guys, thanks. Here is an 'equivalency thought experiment

RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Brad Casterline
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Research the development history of the Residential sprinkler. It was done during the late 70's and covered all the issues you're thinking about here. I believe NFPA 13D was first published in 1980

RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Scott A Futrell
Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:49 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Thanks Mark, I would not want

RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Bill Brooks
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Thanks Mark, I would not want to reduce LH spacing. I think density should be tied to sprinkler height and area to occupancy. I think the water demands are too high for low ceilings and too low for high ceilings. Basing min flow rate

RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Brad Casterline
-5556 Cell -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad Casterline Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:49 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please

RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-04 Thread Brad Casterline
I don't like it Bill, due to the embarrassment that occurs between 19 and 21 feet :) -Original Message- From: Bill Brooks [mailto:bill.bro...@brooksfpe.com] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:04 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please

minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-03 Thread bcasterline
Fact: a minimum pressure is required to 'push the stopper out of the orifice' once the 'link has broken'. This means the column of water above the head has to be at least 16 feet tall. (i wonder if this is enough for the 'bigger stoppers' of today, but I'll trust the manufacturers). An

Re: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-03 Thread Bruce Verhei
:00 Subject: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Fact: a minimum pressure is required to 'push the stopper out of the orifice' once the 'link has broken'. This means the column of water above the head has to be at least 16 feet tall. (i wonder if this is enough for the 'bigger stoppers

Re: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-03 Thread Ron Greenman
My understanding of this is that the minimum pressure is based on the fact that the UL/FM tests are done with the lowest starting pressure being 7psi and has nothing to do with a stopper. The only modern heads I know of with a stopper were the Central designed heads that had an O-ring in the

Re: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please!

2012-06-03 Thread Ron Greenman
-Original message- From: bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Sent: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 20:31:30 GMT+00:00 Subject: minimum 7 PSI end head logic, check please! Fact: a minimum pressure is required to 'push the stopper out of the orifice' once the 'link has