Re: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
Scott beat me to it. Commentary - Considering an air compressor is not required to be Listed, the technical committee is putting requirements into the standard. Maybe the air compressor should be Listed for Fire Protection use. Thanks, John John August Denhardt, PE *Vice President, Engineering

RE: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum
2019: 8.2.6.6.5.1 The disconnecting means for an automatic air compressor shall not be a general-use light switch or a cord-and-plug connected motor. Scott   Office: (763) 425-1001 x 2 Cell: (612) 759-5556 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Ron Greenman via

RE: Can a Clerestory be considered Skylight?

2020-09-24 Thread Kyle.Montgomery via Sprinklerforum
It may not be a skylight, but I don't see why you couldn't consider it a "similar pocket" to a skylight. >From a practical standpoint, what would be the justification behind requiring >a sprinkler in the pocket in this scenario? -Kyle M -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On

Re: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
A switch that looks like a light switch would be legit for a small motor. If the compressor is on a dedicated 20A circuit it would need to be a 20A rated switch. You wouldn't be able to tell a 20A from a 15A (common light circuit rating) without looking at the rating. If it's a 20A/230V compressor

Re: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread Ron Greenman via Sprinklerforum
I think you'd find that in the electrical code, but, and if my memory serves me from many, many years ago, and if it hasn't changed in the several iterations of NFPA 70 since the 1970s when I was an electrical inspector any motor over 1/8th HP requires a disconnect within sight of that motor or

Re: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Hairfield via Sprinklerforum
Like the one for a light switch, there is breaker in the electrical panel with a lock-out Mike From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 3:00 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: John

Re: On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
You are required to have a disconnect switch. What kind of “On/Off” switch are you seeing? John John August Denhardt, P.E. Vice-President Engineering and Technical Services American Fire Sprinkler Association 301-343-1457 > On Sep 24, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Mike Hairfield via Sprinklerforum >

On/Off Switch in the Electric supply to a Dry Pipe System Air Compressor

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Hairfield via Sprinklerforum
Made a inspection to one of my jobs today and found that the electrical contractor installed a On/Off switch to the air compressor which I know isn't allowed. Where does it state in NFPA that this isn't allowd? Thanks, Mike ___ Sprinklerforum mailing

RE: Can a Clerestory be considered Skylight?

2020-09-24 Thread Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
IMHO, a clerestory light well is not a skylight. It's a ceiling pocket, but not a skylight. Steve L. -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020

Can a Clerestory be considered Skylight?

2020-09-24 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
I have a 12 x 36 x 58 tall pocket in they ceiling at a clerestory. If this is consider a skylight per 13-8.5.7 (16ed) I would not have to provide protection at the top of the pocket. But if is a pocket per 13-8.6.7 and since its over 36" tall I'm going have to provide protection at the