RE: flex drops on return bend

2021-03-26 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
The only think I could think of is a listing issue with the bracket connection if the dry head barrel is too long. Jerry Van Kolken Millennium Fire Protection Corp. 2950 San Luis Rey Rd. Oceanside, CA 92058 (760) 722-2722 FX 722-2730 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf

Re: Type of sprinkler in a Gravity Waste Chute

2021-03-26 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
Interesting questions. I just had this situation a few weeks ago. These are my thoughts. NFPA 13 - 2019 edition and NFPA 82 as referenced in section 26.15 of NFPA 13 does not specify a specific temperature classification for the sprinkler. I would install an intermediate temperature rated

RE: New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread Mike Henke via Sprinklerforum
I think it was written with a future date because no such product existed at the time, so the committee gave the industry some time to come up with something. We were able to modify mounting hardware for our mechanical detection method, but the electronic method had never been done before. It

RE: New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread Mike Morey via Sprinklerforum
Can I take this moment to say that while I agree with this change, I kind of hate that it was written with this future date requirement on it? Adoption takes so long in most jurisdictions the date is a moot point and just adds to confusion about retroactivity etc. Mike Morey CFPS 3229 •

Re: New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread John Denhardt via Sprinklerforum
Below is the exact language from NFPA 13 -2019 edition: 8.3.1.2.1 Actuator Supervision. Effective January 1, 2021, removal of an electric actuator from the preaction or deluge valve that it controls shall result in an audible and visual indication of system impairment at the system releasing

Type of sprinkler in a Gravity Waste Chute

2021-03-26 Thread Jerry Van Kolken via Sprinklerforum
What temp sprinkler and coating should be recommended for a trash chute? On multistory buildings I keep getting asked to review the Trash chute drawing since we have to pipe to the sprinkler provide in the chutes. I always see ½" brass 155 deg heads being provided by the chute installer. While

RE: New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread Mike Henke via Sprinklerforum
Bruce, Typically the standards do not apply retroactively. This would typically be for new installations where the latest edition of NFPA 13 was adopted. If the electronic model cannot be used, there is a mechanical method, the Potter RBVS. I am not aware of other manufacturers coming out with

RE: New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread Cary Webber via Sprinklerforum
Potter Electric has done a nice job providing two options that should work with all the most common solenoids. Reliable will be adding this option to our electric release systems in the very near future! Cary Webber CFPS Director, Technical Services Reliable Automatic Sprinkler Co., Inc. 1470

New coil actuators - New standard

2021-03-26 Thread BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum
Please reference https://youtu.be/e7Vkdb9z2qc Mike H. Et al: Is this standards change typical, i.e., not intended to apply retroactively? I assume other manufacturers are putting out similar listed or marked products. Best. Bruce Verhei ___