RE: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-25 Thread Scott Futrell via Sprinklerforum
Of Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 1:51 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Steve Leyton ; Gary Howard, P. Eng. ; John Hoffman Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling Fire sprinkler systems have historically been

Re: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-25 Thread Gary Howard, P. Eng. via Sprinklerforum
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RE: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-25 Thread Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
-Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Gary Howard, P. Eng. via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 10:45 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Gary Howard, P. Eng. ; John Hoffman Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

Re: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-25 Thread Gary Howard, P. Eng. via Sprinklerforum
I should note that it was windy when I was investigating 3 days after the event. I will check that for the date of loss. However, the clamps should redesigned to handle this, no? > On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:19 AM, John Hoffman via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > How windy was it? Steel joisted

Re: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-25 Thread John Hoffman via Sprinklerforum
How windy was it?  Steel joisted building roofs can move up and down a lot, several inches, in the wind.  Over time, this up and down could have an impact on the pipe support system.  You might check that and its potential affect on pipe hangers.  A structural engineer can probably look at the

Re: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-24 Thread Gary Howard via Sprinklerforum
Thanks Craig. I see your posts all the time. 1 The grooves have not been measured in detail yet, but they are not suspect 2. Coupling bolt torques were not checked. Good point to note 3. It is part of 5 dead-end runs from a common manifold. Yes, as you describe but the UG system comes in the

RE: [EXTERNAL] 8 inch sprinkler pipe fall from factory ceiling

2022-02-24 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
I've been involved in several system failure investigations. There are numerous causes. Things to look for: 1. Rolled grooves: were the grooves in the pipe determined to have been done correctly and to manufacturer's specifications? 2. Were coupling bolts torqued to proper spec. This one is a