Good question. I would say,the closet is now a cabinet. I looked up
cabinets in the index however I could not find 8.9.4.1.3.3. in the 2007
addition (missing).
No references say anything about sprinklers inside cabinets so in my opinion
the cabiets don't need to be sprinklered.
Ergo
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Good question. I would say,the closet is now a cabinet. I looked up
cabinets in the index however I could not find 8.9.4.1.3.3. in the 2007
addition
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In situations like this the room's floor area now extends into the former
closet's footprint. Therefore the sprinkler coverage needs to account
did a job in White Plains, NY. All the cabinets are sprinklered. It is a
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Subject: RE: Closets / cabinets So based on that would you provide a
sprinkler below every
Seidel
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In situations like this the room's floor area now extends into the former
closet's footprint. Therefore the sprinkler coverage needs to account for
this recess in the wall
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In situations like this the room's floor area now extends into the former
closet's footprint. Therefore the sprinkler coverage needs to account
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So based
I go with what Ron said. Also note that obstructions (shelves) are
not an issue in a closet. Also it is A.8.15.8.2 that states that
sprinklers are not required within furniture is the old text and it
was expanded in 07 (and put within the standard ) at 8.1.1(7). That
section also states
: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:47 AM
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Somehow we've ventured far away from the original issue, a cabinet with
shelves two feet apart. Not a closet, not an entertainment center,
more of something to put clothes or towels or linens
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Come to the State of Michigan. The head would be required in this closet.
Craig Leadbetter
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I go with what Ron said. Also note that obstructions (shelves) are not an
issue in a closet. Also
Yeah I know! The Tri angle of fire is OLD School, and someday it will be
the Obelisk of fire, but I hope by then to have been put to the flame for
the last time.
Actually it's a Tetrahedron.
David Autry
Plans Examiner
Nebraska State Fire Marshal's Office
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We would not need to Sprinkler a Residential Refrigerator
We would not need to Sprinkler a Residential Refrigerator, because we rely
on the magnetic seal to keep air out and food fresh, hence the old fire tri
angle wouldn't work until you open the door, and exposed the fire hazard to
the air as well as the room sprinkler. Does the room sprinkler put out
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Yeah
Of
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Actually it's a Tetrahedron.
Gee I thought those things were extinct?
I learn so much here.. ;)
Craig L. Prahl, CET
Fire Protection
Thom,
Tetrahedron. We are getting off but this is an important line of
discussion relative to what we are protecting. I'd say that the best
way to look at this is that if you removed all the stuff we put in a
building that isn't really part of the building, including built-in
furniture (cabinets,
Yeah! For Now!
Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
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Actually it's a Tetrahedron.
David Autry
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Thom,
Tetrahedron. We are getting off but this is an important line
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