Re: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-30 Thread Roland Huggins
It appears that you are quoting a section about apples but are talking about oranges. There is NO change regarding the load carried by the structural member. It is still the weight of the pipe (not 5X) plus 250lbs. The 5X rule applies to the hanger assembly which was better defined in 2013 to

RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-30 Thread Craig.Prahl
...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:13 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports) It appears that you

Re: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-30 Thread Roland Huggins
There has indeed been clarification but you have to be part of that tiny sector of the industry that read the ROPs and ROCs to have been aware of it. Several cycles ago we attempted to have the 250 lb requirement removed based on the requirements by the kind and gentle OSHA group that one must

RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-29 Thread Forest Wilson Fire Sprinkler Comtractor
Im not qualified to answer but my opinion is that much of these standards were put In place for industry before internet, etc.   So that every job does not need to be reviewed by an engineer.   I was told the 250 lb requirement was to support the weight of the fitter hanging the pipe. I don't

Re: RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-29 Thread rongreenman .
I've been told the 52K max rule is because you wouldn't want to shut down more than that amount of square footage at a time, and that the WMG was so the FD could find the FDC. Gotta be careful about inductive fallacies Forest. I stayed up all night studying for the exam, and then I got an A on it.

RE: RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports)

2013-10-29 Thread RFletcher
...@lists.firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:23 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: RE: Pipe supports revisited (Pipe support spacing requirements for structural supports) I've