Re: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Jim . Roberts
Matt, I don't know about the 2009 version of the IFC, but 2006, 903.4 requires water-flow switch supervision, which I interpret to include the 1/2 alarm line valve. I learned my lesson the hard way on this many years ago when I got called on it by a fire marshal. Jim James L (Jim) Roberts,

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Pielow, Robert
Of jim.robe...@fluor.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:18 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Matt, I don't know about the 2009 version of the IFC, but 2006, 903.4 requires water-flow switch supervision, which I interpret to include the 1/2

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Matthew J. Willis
- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum- boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Pielow, Robert Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:47 AM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Read the exceptions to IFC

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2010-12-06 Thread Shelton, Eric
@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Thanks folks. Must have been in IFC that I saw it. I can find nothing corresponding in 1 or 101. R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CET Automatic Fire Sprinklers Norred Fire Systems L.L.C. 318-387-1134 Voice 318-816-1087 Mobile 318

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Mike Henke
: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Read the exceptions to IFC Section 903.4. You would normally lock or seal the 1/2 trim valves and not provide electronic supervision. RJ Pielow, P.E. -Original Message- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Matthew J. Willis
, December 06, 2010 1:10 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve I believe the locking exception in IFC IBC only applies to Dry, Preaction Deluge systems. Wet systems still require electrical supervision according to IFC IBC. Exception: Trim

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2010-12-06 Thread Craig.Prahl
: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:24 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Thanks all. Maybe I wasn't completely crazy

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Matthew J. Willis
[mailto:sprinklerforum- boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Was there no water flow switch on the system riser? Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Craig.Prahl
- From: sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Matthew J. Willis Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve Yes, and it was isolated by the valve

RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve

2010-12-06 Thread Gregg Key
...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of craig.pr...@ch2m.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:56 PM To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Tamper/Supervision of Alarm Line Valve So it wasn't directly on the riser it was on the trim piping. Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood