RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
ise Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies The concern I have with heat activated sprinklers is not whether they can contain heat for 2 hours; it is what happens right at the beginning of the fire. A 2 hour barrier will also stop heat at zero hours, but a hole will let f

RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Don Casey via Sprinklerforum
11:01 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL Subject: RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies Bill, The EOR has no basis for the design other than “it’s prescribed for vertical openings in NFPA 13 so it should work for horizontal openings.” That’s

RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Matt Grise via Sprinklerforum
@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL Subject: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies Looking for documentation speaking to the pros or cons of sprinklers in lieu of a fire rated door assembly. I have a manufacturing facility where there is an overhead monorail system used to move

RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
com Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies Some of the EOR brainstorms we see on this forum are pretty farfetched. This one seems to be based on precedent in current codes and standards. The EOR appears to have created a performance objective which says the heat abs

RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Daniel Arnold via Sprinklerforum
brooks brooksfpe.com via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:54 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: bill.brooks brooksfpe.com Subject: RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies Some of the EOR brainstorms we see on this forum are pretty farfetched. This one seems to be

RE: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread bill.brooks brooksfpe.com via Sprinklerforum
...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:27 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL Subject: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies Looking for documentation speaking to the pros or cons

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum
...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 5:45 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Prahl, Craig/GVL; Travis Mack Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies I proposed the FM Global

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
r 24, 2019 8:39 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Travis Mack Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies I’ve done a few jobs where the conveyors pass through 2 hr walls. They were FM Global jobs where this occurred. FM has some criteria for deluge system

Re: Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum
I’ve done a few jobs where the conveyors pass through 2 hr walls. They were FM Global jobs where this occurred. FM has some criteria for deluge systems and spray nozzles at the openings. I don’t recall the particular data sheet for FM at this time. But hopefully that can at least get you in

Sprinklers in lieu of fire rated assemblies

2019-09-24 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum
Looking for documentation speaking to the pros or cons of sprinklers in lieu of a fire rated door assembly. I have a manufacturing facility where there is an overhead monorail system used to move a product from one machining station to another throughout the facility. This system passes