Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-20 Thread bcasterline
om: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type Cement lined ductile iron.  If you use standard DI, and a standard atmospheric sour

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-20 Thread Richard Matsuda
..@lists.firesprinkler.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL >> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 PM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type >> >> Cement lined ductile iron.  If you use standar

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Bruce Verhei
lto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL >> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 PM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type >> >> Cement lined ductile

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Charles Thurston
age- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On > Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:36 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type > > Cement line

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Roland Huggins
Lets not lose sight that the question was about extending above ground system piping below ground for a dry pipe system and CLDI was suggested. That nixes the miles of pipe that is HDPE or PVC having any bearing. I’ve seen delamination in wet pipe but even if it’s a small percentage, the

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Bruce Verhei
Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:58 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type > > Using nitrogen should help mit

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:48 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] Plenty of buildings never have fires. Not a reason

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Roland Huggins
Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org > <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:40 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > &l

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:40 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] Dont think NEW but old and decrepit (like me - lol). AM I the only one that has seen pieces

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Roland Huggins
t; From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org > <mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org>] On Behalf Of Roland > Huggins > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:54 PM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > <mailto:sprinklerforum@lists.f

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Roland Huggins Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:54 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] Dont you worry about the inevitable chunks of cement becoming

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Ron Greenman
gt; > http://www.jacobs.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-bounces@lists.firesprinkler. > org] On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:11 PM > > To: sprinklerforum@lists.

Re: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Roland Huggins
dae Blvd. > Greenville, SC 29607 > craig.pr...@ch2m.com > http://www.jacobs.com > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] > On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:11 PM &

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Reed A. Roisum, SET
] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:58 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type Using nitrogen should help mitigate the corrosion issue with standard DI. I assume there will be a drum-drip back in the riser room so they can

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] Thanks Craig. Yes, the valve room is below grade. If we use nitrogen to charge the dry system then would we just use standard DI? Reed A. Roisum, SET | Karges-Faulconbridge, Inc. | Senior Fire Protection Designer | Fargo, ND

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Reed A. Roisum, SET
://www.kfiengineers.com -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 11:36 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type Cement lined ductile

RE: Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Prahl, Craig/GVL
[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Reed A. Roisum, SET Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 12:11 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Underground Dry System Pipe Type [EXTERNAL] I asked a similar question a number of years ago and it appears as though the consensus

Underground Dry System Pipe Type

2018-02-19 Thread Reed A. Roisum, SET
I asked a similar question a number of years ago and it appears as though the consensus at that time was that dry-pipe system underground pipe should be ductile iron. We have an application where the dry-pipe system leaves the valve room and goes underground and then extends above ground. Is