Re: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Fpdcdesign
It probably should be a glass bulb sprinkler. Not sure if the solder has any magnetic properties Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860-535-2080 (ofc) 860-553-3553 (fax) 860-608-4559 (cell) > > On Nov 13,

Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Michael Hill
I have a closet located in an MRI room that requires an upright sprinkler. I was asked if the upright sprinkler was listed for use in an MRI enclosure (like some concealed pendent sprinklers). I have no idea, but I don't see why a standard spray brass upright couldn't be used in this closet. It

RE: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Matthew J Willis
There are sprinklers listed specifically for those rooms. May not be too invalid a request..? But if everything is non-ferrous, you are still good. Unless your specs….. R/ Matt Matthew J. Willis, CWBSP Design Manager /3-D Specialist Rapid Fire Protection Inc. 1530

RE: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Michael Hill
I would have just sent a standard spray glass bulb upright and wouldn’t have thought twice about it. The question was asked by one of our junior designers (good for him for thinking about things like this) and now he has me second guessing what I have done in the past (damn him for thinking

Re: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Salvatore Izzo
There is no sprinkler listing requirement for an MRI room. Just need to verify that all components of the sprinkler are made from non-ferrous materials, which most sprinklers are as they are commonly made of copper alloy (brass, bronze), Belleville washer is typically Be-Ni, etc. On Tue, Nov 13,

RE: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Matt Grise
Have you tried contacting a manufacturer? Might be a question for the EOR who asked about it - do they have a recommended product? Matt From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Michael Hill Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:29 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Listed Upright

Re: Listed Upright For MRI

2018-11-13 Thread Salvatore Izzo
I don’t believe it’s actually a listing. For example, the Reliable F4FR is a concealed sprinkler designed for MRI rooms because the cup is made of brass instead of steel. It is just a UL Listing as a concealed QR sprinkler. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 10:07 AM Matthew J Willis wrote: > There are

Small room rule spacing with openings permitted

2018-11-13 Thread Phillips, Mark
Greetings everyone Question Can the small room rule be used if the area in question is separated by a lintel greater than 8" ? My train of thought 3.3.22 Defines small room and uses the term "compartment" 3.3.6 Defines compartment as being permitted to having opening to adjoining spaces

Pallet storage above overhead doors

2018-11-13 Thread å . . . . . . .
It is realized that warehouses generally are passively safe to workers because of their relatively long smoke filling times. But, fires in pallets, and even more extreme, plastic pallets, will accelerate EXTREMELY fast. FAST. LIKE. 60 to 180. SECONDS. FAST to top of storage after established

RE: Pallet storage above overhead doors

2018-11-13 Thread Don Casey
Look at heights measured from the top of the pallet storage rack. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of James Crawford Sent: 2018/11/13 3:19 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Pallet storage above overhead doors We are

RE: Small room rule spacing with openings permitted

2018-11-13 Thread cliff
Mark, >From what I see, the 8” lintel is a ‘minimum’ depth. Greater than 8” should >be an added bonus. So there is no need for a door with a minimum 8” lintel. >I think you are thinking correctly on this. Cliff Whitfield, SET President Fire Design, Inc. 184 Comfort Place

Pallet storage above overhead doors

2018-11-13 Thread James Crawford
We are working on a project where the tenant wants to store pallets above the overhead loading doors to a height of 6'-0" in the loading dock area.. The project will be using Factory Mutual data sheets, so I went to DS8-24 Idle Pallet Storage and because they are on racks it send me to DS8-9