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Re: 130 sq ft or 225 sq ft

2018-10-18 Thread Fpdcdesign

  
  

 The insulation eliminates the channeling effect of the joist spaces
  
  
  
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RE: 130 sq ft or 225 sq ft

2018-10-18 Thread MFP Design, LLC

It will have insulation.  That may be how they got to 225 sq ft.

 



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Subject: Re: 130 sq ft or 225 sq ft

 

The FPE kissed the pooch.  The 2x6’s drive the boat so it’s combustible 
obstructed construction with members < 3 ft OC.  Now if you put some insulation 
in the channels whereby the depth of the exposed member is less than 4 inches, 
then you get to merrily embrace the 225 sf As.

 

Roland

 

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On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:06 PM, MFP Design, LLC mailto:tm...@mfpdesign.com> > wrote:

 

I have a project with 24” deep bar joist at 8’ on center.  Spanning the joist 
are 2x6 stringers at 24” on center.  I was under the impression that something 
like this would limit us to 130 sq ft per sprinkler.  The FPE that spec’d out 
the project has indicated 225 sq ft max in this area.  What does everyone think?

 



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Re: 130 sq ft or 225 sq ft

2018-10-18 Thread Roland Huggins

The FPE kissed the pooch.  The 2x6’s drive the boat so it’s combustible 
obstructed construction with members < 3 ft OC.  Now if you put some insulation 
in the channels whereby the depth of the exposed member is less than 4 inches, 
then you get to merrily embrace the 225 sf As.

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> On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:06 PM, MFP Design, LLC  wrote:
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> I have a project with 24” deep bar joist at 8’ on center.  Spanning the joist 
> are 2x6 stringers at 24” on center.  I was under the impression that 
> something like this would limit us to 130 sq ft per sprinkler.  The FPE that 
> spec’d out the project has indicated 225 sq ft max in this area.  What does 
> everyone think?
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> Travis Mack, SET
> MFP Design, LLC
> 3356 E Vallejo Ct
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Re: 130 sq ft or 225 sq ft

2018-10-18 Thread Fpdcdesign

  
  

 I’m with you at 130
  
  
  
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>  I have a project with 24” deep bar joist at 8’ on center.Spanning the 
> joist are 2x6 stringers at 24” on center.I was under the impression that 
> something like this would limit us to 130 sq ft per sprinkler.The FPE 
> that spec’d out the project has indicated 225 sq ft max in this area.What 
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