Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-15 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 15, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: > A mail server speaks SMTP for both inbound and outbound That’s only useful if you’ve configured Fossil to integrate with a third-party bidirectional SMTP server, which is *not* the only way to configure Fossil’s email integration: https

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-15 Thread Peter da Silva
I think you're conflating things. A mail server speaks SMTP for both inbound and outbound, IMAP/POP/webmail is all part of the user interface stack... as would be the webforum component in any mailing list/web forum scheme. On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, 20:45 Warren Young, wrote: > On Oct 14, 2019, at 3:

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-14 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 14, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > On Monday, 14 October, 2019 14:18, Warren Young wrote: > >> Fossil Forums allow you to subscribe to email notifications. From the >> reader’s perspective, it’s really very little different from the current >> Mailman based scheme. > > The

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-14 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Monday, 14 October, 2019 14:18, Warren Young wrote: >Fossil Forums allow you to subscribe to email notifications. From the >reader’s perspective, it’s really very little different from the current >Mailman based scheme. The preceding paragraph is completely at odds with the following paragr

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-14 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 11, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Tim Streater wrote: > > A mailing list suits me just fine. It works well and gets next to no spam. In > addition, it's not yet another damn website I have to log into to use and > remember my username/password for. And I don't care if it's not "modern”. Fossil For

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-14 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 11, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Brannon King wrote: > > I'd like to propose that we > upgrade to something more modern and secure like Sympa or mlmmj, or even a > more drastic system upgrade to something like Redmine -- a project > tracker + forum. This is a really old argument, which we’ve had at

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-14 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 11, 2019, at 9:41 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > what is the reason that the SQLite mailing list archives...are private for > members only in order to be read? Probably because you can extract email addresses and real names from the archives. Harvesting of such information is a problem inhe

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-13 Thread sqlite3
Brannon King wrote: > [...] I'd like to propose that we upgrade to something more modern and > secure like Sympa or mlmmj, or even a more drastic system upgrade to > something like Redmine -- a project tracker + forum. I would propose instead to upgrade to a NNTP. (I even wrote a NNTP software t

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-12 Thread Jens Alfke
> On Oct 11, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Mike Bayer wrote: > > GNU Mailman is still very widely used and IMO does the job very well Its web interface is like something from 1997. In particular, it makes reading archives very painful, clicking through to one message at a time. I’d recommend groups.io —

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-11 Thread Tim Streater
On 11 Oct 2019, at 16:56, Brannon King wrote: > I agree that Mailman is archaic. I worry about the security on it. I don't > enjoy using 3rd-party mirrors for searching it. I'd like to propose that we > upgrade to something more modern and secure like Sympa or mlmmj, or even a > more drastic syst

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-11 Thread Mike Bayer
Are there specific Mailman CVEs you can refer towards such that these settings could not be opened up? The read-only archives appear to be static files, so there is no additional security issue that isn't already presented by the existing cgi-bin already open for public access. Similarly for the

Re: [sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-11 Thread Brannon King
I agree that Mailman is archaic. I worry about the security on it. I don't enjoy using 3rd-party mirrors for searching it. I'd like to propose that we upgrade to something more modern and secure like Sympa or mlmmj, or even a more drastic system upgrade to something like Redmine -- a project tracke

[sqlite] rationale for private archives of the SQLite mailing list and suppressed reply-to

2019-10-11 Thread Mike Bayer
Apologies if this has been asked before but what is the reason that the SQLite mailing list archives, linked at http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users, are private for members only in order to be read? The archives can be viewed at a mirror such as http://sqlite.10