Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-16 Thread Domingo Alvarez Duarte
Hello James ! Definitely you've made a very good point ! Thumbs up ! Cheers ! On 16/3/20 17:37, James K. Lowden wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:22:46 -0400 Richard Hipp wrote: 4. Your email address is never displayed, even to subscribers. While I have no illusions of altering the online

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-16 Thread James K. Lowden
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 11:22:46 -0400 Richard Hipp wrote: > 4. Your email address is never displayed, even to subscribers. While I have no illusions of altering the online trajectory of this ML, I'd like to point out that email addresses foster community. Studies and experience both show that

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-15 Thread Jens Alfke
> On Mar 15, 2020, at 4:54 AM, no...@null.net wrote: > > By chance or by design most emails to this list, like yours above, came > wrapped at a length suitable for text-based readers. Yet every message > I've received from the forum is a shocking cut-words-in-half affair in > my terminal.

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-15 Thread nomad
On Fri Mar 13, 2020 at 11:22:46AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 3/13/20, Huỳnh Trần Khanh wrote: > > [On a mailing nlist] I can > > filter the posts, sort them, search through them, archive them, > > forward them to a friend, > > You can do all of that with the SQLite Forum. Remember, all

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Petite Abeille
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 23:09, Michael Falconer > wrote: > > So I'll take the opportunity now to thank (too many to single out) the many > contributors to this list who have made it unique, and well...just a nice > place to be. So long, and thanks for all the fish :) Will miss this place.

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Michael Falconer
Ahthe inevitable becomes reality. I knew when this stuff surfaced a few years back that it was not going to go away, and this outcome was just a matter of time. Not a great a great shock as a life in programming has seen so much change. I don't need to Fossil, because I am one. Also a bit of a

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Jim Dodgen
Another lurker here ... I have always preferred mailing lists and found forums to be too fat. That said, I like the fossil forum. It was referred to bring a "enginerish" style which is fine given the audience Kudos for its speed and light weight, No fluff just data. Jim "Jed" Dodgen

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Simon Slavin
On 13 Mar 2020, at 6:50pm, Thomas Kurz wrote: > Why can't the forum just forward all new postings to this mailing list and > vice versa? Then everyone could chose what to use ;) I think one of the objectives of moving away from email is to prevent email spam.

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread P Kishor
In a way it already does… not to the mailing list but to the email address of everyone registered on the forum. The key thing you can’t do is post via email. My personal view is there never be a solution that will please everyone. But it is Richard’s software and Richard’s game, and we have to

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Thomas Kurz
Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing list: https://sqlite.org/forum https://www.sqlite.org/forum/forumpost/a6a27d79ac Please consider subscribing to the new Forum. The intent is that the forum will eventually

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Huỳnh Trần Khanh
> I’m not sure I’d agree with that. People tend to quote when replying to > mail, even if just one line, to provide context. That’s a lot less true of > the forums, especially if you’re responding to a one line question or comment > on the message right above yours. Since the forum emails

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/13/20, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Should I write to you directly, or to the Fossil forum? Either one (or both) will be fine. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Philip Bennefall
I am happy to do that, but I can't promise any kind of timeline as it will have to be in my free time only. Can't really sign well, though, as I am totally blind. But I guess we'll cross that bridge if I come up with a working audio captcha solution. I'll have a look at the Fossil captcha

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/13/20, Philip Bennefall wrote: > I submitted > a thread a while back offering to work on an audio captcha for Fossil, I don't recall that thread. But if you want to submit code that generates an audio file of some kind that speaks the text of a Fossil Captcha, that would be great. I will

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Jay Kreibich
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 10:22 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > On 3/13/20, Huỳnh Trần Khanh wrote: >> [On a mailing nlist] I can >> filter the posts, sort them, search through them, archive them, >> forward them to a friend, > > You can do all of that with the SQLite Forum. Remember, all content >

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Philip Bennefall
If you are comfortable doing that for any blind users who stop by, then of course that would be a quick fix. But it feels like taking a step backwards, from being able to subscribe without assistance to having to contact the author of whatever Fossil forum this applies to. I submitted a thread

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/13/20, Philip Bennefall wrote: > Is there a solution in the pipeline for the inaccessible captcha in the > forum for visually impaired users? The solution is for you to send me a private email asking for me to create your account for you, as doing that is way, way easier than trying to

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Philip Bennefall
Hi Richard, Is there a solution in the pipeline for the inaccessible captcha in the forum for visually impaired users? I brought this up when the forum was first released and you kindly created an account manually for me, but it doesn't seem as though the problem was actually solved in the

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/13/20, Huỳnh Trần Khanh wrote: > [On a mailing nlist] I can > filter the posts, sort them, search through them, archive them, > forward them to a friend, You can do all of that with the SQLite Forum. Remember, all content is still delivered directly to your in-box, just like with a

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Huỳnh Trần Khanh
No. Web-based forums are terrible. I prefer mailing lists. I can filter the posts, sort them, search through them, archive them, forward them to a friend, The same experience **can't be replicated** on a web-based forum. Also the styling is terrible. At the very least I'd love a feature where I

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Jose Isaias Cabrera
x, on Friday, March 13, 2020 09:01 AM, wrote... > > * I truly hope Keith you'll continue making your tremendous contributions > to > the SQLite community. > I would say to the SQL world. josé ___ sqlite-users mailing list

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread x
* I truly hope Keith you'll continue making your tremendous contributions to the SQLite community. Ditto. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread dirdi
Since Fossil was founded and is developed by drh as well, this step was not that unpredictable. If you compare the forum to the mailing list the only drawback I can see is that one is no longer able to contribute via mail: | Mailing list | Forum

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Mike King
As an occasional poster I like the idea of a forum as for me it's easier to dip in and follow threads (after lots of years of using System.Data.Sqlite I'm reluctantly moving over to using the Microsoft drivers because it supports EF Core). For the look and feel, it's plain but it's functional.

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Ling, Andy
> Please consider subscribing to the new Forum. The intent is that the forum > will eventually replace this mailing list. Having just had a go at subscribing, I screwed up and mistyped my email address. Is there any way for me to change it? Regards Andy Ling

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 10:09:38 +, you wrote: >On 13 Mar 2020, at 09:35, Peter da Silva wrote: > >> What do you mean there have been "just a few threads" in the mailing list? >> I can barely keep up with it. > > As a lurker I can say that this mailing list suits just > fine. Another forum means

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Dominique Devienne
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:05 AM Keith Medcalf wrote: > Uck. That is the most horrible looking thing I have ever seen in my > life. Good luck with it. > I truly hope Keith you'll continue making your tremendous contributions to the SQLite community. Things will inevitably move over to the

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Tim Streater
On 13 Mar 2020, at 09:35, Peter da Silva wrote: > What do you mean there have been "just a few threads" in the mailing list? > I can barely keep up with it. As a lurker I can say that this mailing list suits just fine. Another forum means another username/password I have to manage. On a list,

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Peter da Silva
What do you mean there have been "just a few threads" in the mailing list? I can barely keep up with it. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread Rowan Worth
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 at 08:15, Jens Alfke wrote: > In a messaging system, the user interface is critically important. Agree absolutely! I don't think it matters much whether the SQLite forum can render a page in > "about 0.003s" as it says in the footer. But I take issue with this -- I find

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-13 Thread ingo
Can we clone (push, pull, sync) the forum fossil? Ingo On 12-3-2020 21:17, Richard Hipp wrote: The Forum is powered by Fossil. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Wout Mertens
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 1:15 AM Jens Alfke wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing list: > > Oh crap. > > > The Forum is powered by Fossil. > > I appreciate that you like to 'eat your own dog food'.

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Wout Mertens
t; >To: SQLite mailing list > >Subject: Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is > >deprecated > > > >On 3/12/20, no...@null.net wrote: > >> I am wondering what (apparently invisible) > >> anti-spam features are present. > >

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Stephen Chrzanowski
I've read a bunch of the posts here, and quite honestly, I'm kind of looking forward to having Fossil send me notes that messages have been added, then, if I want to reply, I just log into the site and do the reply. I'm not 100% sure about the anon sending to Fossil, if that's a thing I thought I

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 12, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: > > I strongly disagree with your using a homemade forum rather than something > like Discourse. Unlike SQLite proper, the Fossil project accepts outside contributions without a whole lot of gatekeeping. I myself have made a few improvements to

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread J. King
On March 12, 2020 8:15:15 p.m. EDT, Jens Alfke wrote: > > >> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> >> I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing >list: > >Oh crap. > >> The Forum is powered by Fossil. > >I appreciate that you like to 'eat your own dog

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread J. King
On March 12, 2020 8:06:47 p.m. EDT, Petite Abeille wrote: > >Also, would it be possible to actually mark such emails to include >proper List Header Fields, e.g.: I had the same thought, but would that really be appropriate? Unless you could post to it like a list, anyway. -- J. King

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Jens Alfke
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > > I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing list: Oh crap. > The Forum is powered by Fossil. I appreciate that you like to 'eat your own dog food'. However, I strongly disagree with your using a homemade forum

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Petite Abeille
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 01:04, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > Uck. That is the most horrible looking thing I have ever seen in my life. > Good luck with it. If only this was confine to the esthetics. But yes, horrible sums it up. ___ sqlite-users

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Petite Abeille
> On Mar 13, 2020, at 00:54, BohwaZ wrote: > > So that people wishing to use emails could still do it by subscribing > to alerts and then replying to notifications. Also, would it be possible to actually mark such emails to include proper List Header Fields, e.g.: List-Id: List Header

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Keith Medcalf
hard Hipp >Sent: Thursday, 12 March, 2020 15:29 >To: SQLite mailing list >Subject: Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is >deprecated > >On 3/12/20, no...@null.net wrote: >> I am wondering what (apparently invisible) >> anti-spam features are

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread BohwaZ
Kia ora, Like with the Fossil list I did subscribe and switch to the forum, but wouldn't it be possible to add the ability in Fossil to handle incoming email replies to forum posts? So that people wishing to use emails could still do it by subscribing to alerts and then replying to

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Domingo Alvarez Duarte
Hello Richard ! I like the concept of fossil including the forum functionality ! With that said we are in a database forum and most of us know that one common problem/task with databases is migration, there is any plan/attempt to migrate the actual mailing list to the new fossil forum ?

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Petite Abeille
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 21:17, Richard Hipp wrote: > > a replacement for this mailing list: Tragic. Oh well. Anyhow, thanks for SQLite itself :) ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:59 PM, no...@null.net wrote: > > I would like to add my resistance "vote." If experience on the Fossil mailing list is any guide, this mailing list will be a ghost town soon. There have been just a few threads on the mailing list in the years since we started the forum,

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Richard Hipp
On 3/12/20, no...@null.net wrote: > I am wondering what (apparently invisible) > anti-spam features are present. I will be happy to discuss that, and any other questions you have, on the Forum. :-) -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ sqlite-users

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread nomad
On Thu Mar 12, 2020 at 04:17:59PM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: > I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing list: > > https://sqlite.org/forum > https://www.sqlite.org/forum/forumpost/a6a27d79ac I know this topic has already been discussed deeply on this list, but I

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Scott Robison
They can subscribe to the forum too. :) On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 2:40 PM Simon Slavin wrote: > Well, that'll annoy the nabble people. And I can live with that. > ___ > sqlite-users mailing list > sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org >

Re: [sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Simon Slavin
Well, that'll annoy the nabble people. And I can live with that. ___ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users

[sqlite] New SQLite Forum established - this mailing list is deprecated

2020-03-12 Thread Richard Hipp
I have set up an on-line forum as a replacement for this mailing list: https://sqlite.org/forum https://www.sqlite.org/forum/forumpost/a6a27d79ac Please consider subscribing to the new Forum. The intent is that the forum will eventually replace this mailing list. The Forum is powered