Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread Michael Hooker

Sqlfan:

If you really want something to imitate Excel, rather than just using Excel 
itself and the very capable VBA it includes, one option would be Borland 
Delphi, using Ralf Junker's Disqlite3 as the wrapper to Sqlite3 and any one 
of a number of third-party shareware grid components, easily tracked down 
via Google. Disqlite3 comes with at least one example using such a 
component.  I suspect, however, that you wouldn't get away with a free 
"personal use" version of either - not if you are working for a client.


I don't think any of us understand why you need a GUI front end to replace 
Excel when Excel does all the display work for you, and your client is happy 
with it.   Likewise you haven't mentioned how you would write your own GUI. 
If you are actually capable of doing that, my feeling is that you might as 
well just get on with it because anything else is going to be a compromise.


Michael Hooker

On 08/01/2008 16:32:08, Mag. Wilhelm Braun ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

there are a number of front ends to sqlite - I use sometime tksqlite.
http://reddog.s35.xrea.com/wiki/TkSQLite.html

maybe not exactly what you want - but it might be a starting point.

regards W.Braun


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Still not sure why you want to use SQLite here, but I think to get what
> you want you will have to code
> it yourself.
>
> RBS
>
>
>> Let me be more clear.
There's very little data, and I want to help my
>> client
>> be able to expand his business, so the first step is automating what 
>> he's

>> been doing by hand.  I can get the excel data into sqlite no problem --

>> and
>> wish to do so in order to START doing automated stuff with the data --
but
>> would like to PRESENT (and only present) the data in the familiar
>> spreadsheet manner.
>>
>> This is a general problem: many people use excel as a database only
>> because
>> of how nice it looks once they add coloring, and because
it's easier to,
>> say, have the three address fields as three columns, even though 
>> logically





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RE: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread Samuel R. Neff
SQLite is not an end-user tool (nor is any other database except *perhaps*
Access, but even then it just gets people into trouble).  

What you want is not a free gui for SQLite but a custom application that
does what the user needs and uses SQLite as it's data storage mechanism.
This certainly will not be free, it will require custom programming and you
should evaluate whether the cost is worth the savings that the new
application will bring to the company (and the answer very often is no).

Perhaps there is an off-the-shelf product which may or may not be free that
does what you want which would be a much cheaper option than custom
development.  It may not use SQLite but I don't see how that is a major
requirement for your situation anyways.

HTH,

Sam
 


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RE: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread Griggs, Donald
Regarding 
Moving colorful spreadsheet to sqlite.

-- Would Christian Werner's free ODBC interface allow you to use the
same spreadsheet to access an sqlite database?
http://www.ch-werner.de/sqliteodbc

-- Lots of automation can be performed within Excel spreadsheets (and, I
imagine, OpenOffice spreadsheets) without changing to a different
database, right?

Donald

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Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread Clark Christensen
I'm not big on either Excel or ODBC, so I can't help with the details, but...

There's an ODBC driver for SQLite you could install on your customer's system, 
and I'm pretty sure Excel can render data from an ODBC data source.  So, if 
what you really want is to view query result data in Excel, it seems you could 
start here:

http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=SqliteOdbc

 -Clark


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From: sqlfan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: sqlite-users@sqlite.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2008 2:50:00 AM
Subject: Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite



Let 
me 
be 
more 
clear.  
There's 
very 
little 
data, 
and 
I 
want 
to 
help 
my 
client
be 
able 
to 
expand 
his 
business, 
so 
the 
first 
step 
is 
automating 
what 
he's
been 
doing 
by 
hand.  
I 
can 
get 
the 
excel 
data 
into 
sqlite 
no 
problem 
-- 
and
wish 
to 
do 
so 
in 
order 
to 
START 
doing 
automated 
stuff 
with 
the 
data 
-- 
but
would 
like 
to 
PRESENT 
(and 
only 
present) 
the 
data 
in 
the 
familiar
spreadsheet 
manner.

This 
is 
a 
general 
problem: 
many 
people 
use 
excel 
as 
a 
database 
only 
because
of 
how 
nice 
it 
looks 
once 
they 
add 
coloring, 
and 
because 
it's 
easier 
to,
say, 
have 
the 
three 
address 
fields 
as 
three 
columns, 
even 
though 
logically
it 
should 
be 
a 
separate 
table 
Addresses.  
So, 
I'd 
like 
to 
have 
the 
same
familiar 
input 
view 
without 
having 
the 
client 
worry 
about 
the 
details 
(which
column 
is 
really 
what 
table, 
etc) 
and 
also 
to 
be 
able 
to 
color 
it 
as 
he 
has
done 
to 
date.  
So, 
is 
there 
is 
a 
free 
gui 
frontend 
to 
sqlite 
that 
will 
do
it, 
or 
do 
I 
have 
to 
code 
one 
myself?

Thanks!



bartsmissaert 
wrote:
> 
> 
If 
it 
is 
so 
good 
then 
why 
would 
you 
want 
to 
use
> 
SQLite? 
Holiday 
data 
can't 
be 
that 
much, 
so 
I 
would
> 
think 
Excel 
can 
cope 
with 
that 
fine.
> 
If 
you 
really 
want 
to 
move 
the 
data 
from 
Excel 
to
> 
SQLite 
then 
you 
will 
need 
a 
VB 
wrapper.
> 
> 
RBS
> 
>>
>> 
I 
have 
a 
client 
who's 
using 
a 
colorful 
excel 
sheet 
as 
a 
database.  
It's
>> 
colorful, 
well-structured, 
and 
a 
joy 
to 
use.  
He 
has 
no 
code 
working 
on
>> 
the
>> 
data 
though 
-- 
it's 
just 
used 
for 
holding 
data, 
like 
a 
ledger 
book!
>>
>> 
My 
question 
is 
how 
I 
can 
put 
his 
information 
into 
a 
sqlite 
database 
but
>> 
give
>> 
him 
a 
very 
similar 
interface 
-- 
the 
same, 
well-structured, 
colorful,
>> 
spreadsheet 
view?  
I 
don't 
want 
him 
to 
even 
have 
to 
worry 
about 
which
>> 
column
>> 
is 
actually 
in 
which 
table-- 
just 
have 
it 
look 
like 
an 
excel 
sheet.
>>
>> 
This 
is 
very 
basic 
and 
easy, 
and 
I'd 
hate 
to 
have 
to 
reinvent 
the 
wheel
>> 
coding 
it 
-- 
is 
there 
a 
free 
sqlite 
gui 
that 
can 
present 
such 
a 
colorful
>> 
spreadsheet 
view?
>>
>> 
Thank 
you!
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Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread Mag. Wilhelm Braun
there are a number of front ends to sqlite - I use sometime tksqlite. 
http://reddog.s35.xrea.com/wiki/TkSQLite.html


maybe not exactly what you want - but it might be a starting point.

regards W.Braun


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Still not sure why you want to use SQLite here, but I think to get what
you want you will have to code
it yourself.

RBS

  

Let me be more clear.  There's very little data, and I want to help my
client
be able to expand his business, so the first step is automating what he's
been doing by hand.  I can get the excel data into sqlite no problem --
and
wish to do so in order to START doing automated stuff with the data -- but
would like to PRESENT (and only present) the data in the familiar
spreadsheet manner.

This is a general problem: many people use excel as a database only
because
of how nice it looks once they add coloring, and because it's easier to,
say, have the three address fields as three columns, even though logically
it should be a separate table Addresses.  So, I'd like to have the same
familiar input view without having the client worry about the details
(which
column is really what table, etc) and also to be able to color it as he
has
done to date.  So, is there is a free gui frontend to sqlite that will do
it, or do I have to code one myself?

Thanks!



bartsmissaert wrote:


If it is so good then why would you want to use
SQLite? Holiday data can't be that much, so I would
think Excel can cope with that fine.
If you really want to move the data from Excel to
SQLite then you will need a VB wrapper.

RBS

  

I have a client who's using a colorful excel sheet as a database.  It's
colorful, well-structured, and a joy to use.  He has no code working on
the
data though -- it's just used for holding data, like a ledger book!

My question is how I can put his information into a sqlite database but
give
him a very similar interface -- the same, well-structured, colorful,
spreadsheet view?  I don't want him to even have to worry about which
column
is actually in which table-- just have it look like an excel sheet.

This is very basic and easy, and I'd hate to have to reinvent the wheel
coding it -- is there a free sqlite gui that can present such a
colorful
spreadsheet view?

Thank you!
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Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread bartsmissaert
Still not sure why you want to use SQLite here, but I think to get what
you want you will have to code
it yourself.

RBS

>
> Let me be more clear.  There's very little data, and I want to help my
> client
> be able to expand his business, so the first step is automating what he's
> been doing by hand.  I can get the excel data into sqlite no problem --
> and
> wish to do so in order to START doing automated stuff with the data -- but
> would like to PRESENT (and only present) the data in the familiar
> spreadsheet manner.
>
> This is a general problem: many people use excel as a database only
> because
> of how nice it looks once they add coloring, and because it's easier to,
> say, have the three address fields as three columns, even though logically
> it should be a separate table Addresses.  So, I'd like to have the same
> familiar input view without having the client worry about the details
> (which
> column is really what table, etc) and also to be able to color it as he
> has
> done to date.  So, is there is a free gui frontend to sqlite that will do
> it, or do I have to code one myself?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> bartsmissaert wrote:
>>
>> If it is so good then why would you want to use
>> SQLite? Holiday data can't be that much, so I would
>> think Excel can cope with that fine.
>> If you really want to move the data from Excel to
>> SQLite then you will need a VB wrapper.
>>
>> RBS
>>
>>>
>>> I have a client who's using a colorful excel sheet as a database.  It's
>>> colorful, well-structured, and a joy to use.  He has no code working on
>>> the
>>> data though -- it's just used for holding data, like a ledger book!
>>>
>>> My question is how I can put his information into a sqlite database but
>>> give
>>> him a very similar interface -- the same, well-structured, colorful,
>>> spreadsheet view?  I don't want him to even have to worry about which
>>> column
>>> is actually in which table-- just have it look like an excel sheet.
>>>
>>> This is very basic and easy, and I'd hate to have to reinvent the wheel
>>> coding it -- is there a free sqlite gui that can present such a
>>> colorful
>>> spreadsheet view?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
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Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread sqlfan

Let me be more clear.  There's very little data, and I want to help my client
be able to expand his business, so the first step is automating what he's
been doing by hand.  I can get the excel data into sqlite no problem -- and
wish to do so in order to START doing automated stuff with the data -- but
would like to PRESENT (and only present) the data in the familiar
spreadsheet manner.

This is a general problem: many people use excel as a database only because
of how nice it looks once they add coloring, and because it's easier to,
say, have the three address fields as three columns, even though logically
it should be a separate table Addresses.  So, I'd like to have the same
familiar input view without having the client worry about the details (which
column is really what table, etc) and also to be able to color it as he has
done to date.  So, is there is a free gui frontend to sqlite that will do
it, or do I have to code one myself?

Thanks!



bartsmissaert wrote:
> 
> If it is so good then why would you want to use
> SQLite? Holiday data can't be that much, so I would
> think Excel can cope with that fine.
> If you really want to move the data from Excel to
> SQLite then you will need a VB wrapper.
> 
> RBS
> 
>>
>> I have a client who's using a colorful excel sheet as a database.  It's
>> colorful, well-structured, and a joy to use.  He has no code working on
>> the
>> data though -- it's just used for holding data, like a ledger book!
>>
>> My question is how I can put his information into a sqlite database but
>> give
>> him a very similar interface -- the same, well-structured, colorful,
>> spreadsheet view?  I don't want him to even have to worry about which
>> column
>> is actually in which table-- just have it look like an excel sheet.
>>
>> This is very basic and easy, and I'd hate to have to reinvent the wheel
>> coding it -- is there a free sqlite gui that can present such a colorful
>> spreadsheet view?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> --
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Re: [sqlite] free excel-like COLORFUL gui for sqlite

2008-01-08 Thread bartsmissaert
If it is so good then why would you want to use
SQLite? Holiday data can't be that much, so I would
think Excel can cope with that fine.
If you really want to move the data from Excel to
SQLite then you will need a VB wrapper.

RBS

>
> I have a client who's using a colorful excel sheet as a database.  It's
> colorful, well-structured, and a joy to use.  He has no code working on
> the
> data though -- it's just used for holding data, like a ledger book!
>
> My question is how I can put his information into a sqlite database but
> give
> him a very similar interface -- the same, well-structured, colorful,
> spreadsheet view?  I don't want him to even have to worry about which
> column
> is actually in which table-- just have it look like an excel sheet.
>
> This is very basic and easy, and I'd hate to have to reinvent the wheel
> coding it -- is there a free sqlite gui that can present such a colorful
> spreadsheet view?
>
> Thank you!
> --
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