Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-07 Thread jotap_66
d6jg wrote: > On Spotify and other services unfortunately the tagging leaves a lot to > be desired and you are going to get errors no matter what you do The idea is I tried to rename all my tags to be as Spotify tags, because Spotty needs this to use the “Browse on Spotify” feature. It works

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-07 Thread jotap_66
d6jg wrote: > I’d argue that an Original Soundtrack to a film etc (if that’s what you > mean by OST) is likely to be a very good example of a compilation. > However if you want to defeat the LMS scan logic tag the AlbumArtist as > “OST” or similar. Provided there is no compilation tag set it

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-07 Thread d6jg
On Spotify and other services unfortunately the tagging leaves a lot to be desired and you are going to get errors no matter what you do VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 ->

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-07 Thread d6jg
I’d argue that an Original Soundtrack to a film etc (if that’s what you mean by OST) is likely to be a very good example of a compilation. However if you want to defeat the LMS scan logic tag the AlbumArtist as “OST” or similar. Provided there is no compilation tag set it will then appear as a

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-06 Thread jotap_66
slartibartfast wrote: > I think if the album has multiple track artists and no album artist LMS > assumes it is a compilation. Can you give an example of an album with > the issue and how it is tagged? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Yes. I am going to look for one example

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-06 Thread jotap_66
garym wrote: > If even one track has an artist tag that is not identical to all other > tracks on album, LMS will treat this as a compilation. To avoid this, > also use a single ALBUM ARTIST for every track on the album. I think you are right. But it is a strange behaviour. Your idea could be

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-06 Thread slartibartfast
jotap_66 wrote: > Hi a again: > > All of you solved my problems with the ARTISTSORT tag. > > I am now having problems with the compilation tag. LMS, tells me that > some discs are compilation. But the compilation tag in YATE (I am using > this software) is unchecked). > > What is

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-06 Thread garym
jotap_66 wrote: > Hi a again: > > All of you solved my problems with the ARTISTSORT tag. > > I am now having problems with the compilation tag. LMS, tells me that > some discs are compilation. But the compilation tag in YATE (I am using > this software) is unchecked). > > What is

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-08-06 Thread jotap_66
Hi a again: All of you solved my problems with the artistsort tag. I am having problems with the compilation tag. LMS, tells me that some discs are compilation. But the compilation tag in YATE (I am using this software is unchecked). What is happening? Could you help me? Regards JP

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-31 Thread jotap_66
Grumpy Bob wrote: > I've always used 'kid3' (https://kid3.kde.org/#download) for tagging > audio files on my MacBook. AFAIK it's free, and pretty straightforward > to use. > > Robert Thank you very much JP jotap_66's

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread Grumpy Bob
I've always used 'kid3' (https://kid3.kde.org/#download) for tagging audio files on my MacBook. AFAIK it's free, and pretty straightforward to use. Robert *Home: *Raspberry Pi 4/pCP7.0/LMS8.1.2/Material with files on QNAP TS-251A Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread jotap_66
garym wrote: > Yep, I'm told YATE is very sophisticated and can do essentially > anything, but that there is a bit of a learning curve to actually > discover *how* to do things. I'd say mp3tag is similar. I think you are right. The learning curve is steep Regards JP

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread garym
jotap_66 wrote: > Ok. > > > I really don't remember how I got these records. It is possible that I > bought them in some online service. > > My original CDs are only rippped with EAC (on a PC) and XLD on Mac. > > Anyway, my thanks to the Yate support. Barry, from Yate support > explained

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread jotap_66
kidstypike wrote: > Same here with genre tags, you'll notice the example I gave above > doesn't even have a genre tag, I've just rectified this. I'm not too > concerned though as I don't often browse by genre. :rolleyes: Ok. I really don't remember how I got these records. It is possible

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread kidstypike
Grumpy Bob wrote: > Same for me, though I don't have MusicIP fingerprints. In the past, I > have found MusicBrainz tags to cause issues. I generally remove these. I > don't use ArtistSort tags and get ride of them whenever I have a file > with them. > > I have an ongoing on/off effort to

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread Grumpy Bob
slartibartfast wrote: > I always try to have as few tags as possible so mine are the same as > yours plus MusicIP fingerprints. I always strip out Musicbrainz stuff if > present. > Same for me, though I don't have MusicIP fingerprints. In the past, I have found MusicBrainz tags to cause

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread slartibartfast
kidstypike wrote: > Well worth the money I'd say. > > I couldn't sleep knowing there was all that crap in my tags :) > > Typical tags for _*all*_ my albums below. > > 35376I always try to have as few tags as possible so mine are the same as yours plus MusicIP fingerprints. I always strip out

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread jotap_66
kidstypike wrote: > Well worth the money I'd say. > > I couldn't sleep knowing there was all that crap in my tags :) > > Typical tags for _*all*_ my albums below. > > > > > Thank you very much to all of you. They were hidden > > Yate support told me how to edit these preferences. >

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread kidstypike
slartibartfast wrote: > Yup $19.99. I suggested trying to run the Windows version in the Wine > emulator. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Well worth the money I'd say. I couldn't sleep knowing there was all that crap in my tags :) Typical tags for _*all*_ my albums below. 35376

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread slartibartfast
kidstypike wrote: > Mp3tag is free (you can donate) for windows, do you have to pay for the > mac version?Yup $19.99. I suggested trying to run the Windows version in the > Wine emulator. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread kidstypike
jotap_66 wrote: > Hi again Garym: > > I solved all my problems, but no with Bryan Adams: > > I show you the info: > > This is a mp3tag screen. I downloaded a demo. > > I cant see this info in Yate. Must I buy mp3tag? > > The problem is in MUSICBRAIN_SORTNAMEI cant edit this info in

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-30 Thread slartibartfast
jotap_66 wrote: > Hi again Garym: > > I solved all my problems, but no with Bryan Adams: > > I show you the info: > > 35374 > > This is a mp3tag screen. I downloaded a demo. > > I cant see this info in Yate. Must I buy mp3tag? > > The problem is in MUSICBRAIN_SORTNAMEI cant edit this

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
Hi again Garym: I solved all my problems, but no with Bryan Adams: I show you the info: 35374 This is a mp3tag screen. I downloaded a demo. I cant see this info in Yate. Must I buy mp3tag? Regards JP +---+ |Filename:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread garym
excellent. problem solved! *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP8.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
jotap_66 wrote: > I got mp3tag and you are right. It is the ARTISTSORT tag. Is it this > available in Yate? > > Regards > > JP I found it. It is available with other name. Sorting—> Sort Artist Thank you very much JP

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread slartibartfast
jotap_66 wrote: > I got mp3tag and you are right. It is the ARTISTSORT tag. Is it this > available in Yate? > > Regards > > JPFor $20 you would hope so. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread d6jg
jotap_66 wrote: > I got mp3tag and you are right. It is the ARTISTSORT tag. Is it this > available in Yate? > > Regards > > JP I have no idea about Yate. Never used it. Glad you’ve found the culprit. After correction you will need a Clear & Rescan VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS)

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
d6jg wrote: > There is a version of mp3tag for Mac > > We all seem to agree it’s rogue ARTISTSORT tags. It can be difficult to > find the culprit. I got mp3tag and you are right. It is the ARTISTSORT tag. Is it this available in Yate? Regards JP

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
d6jg wrote: > There is a version of mp3tag for Mac > > We all seem to agree it’s rogue ARTISTSORT tags. It can be difficult to > find the culprit. Ok.it is very difficult to find it. Thank you very much JP jotap_66's

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread d6jg
garym wrote: > I use mp3tag for all my tagging. I'd take one of these odd artists > (David Bowie), open all his files in YATE, and then somehow look at all > the tag values aross these files. It is easy in mp3tag, as I'd just > select all these folders, and in mp3tag, right click, select

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread garym
I use mp3tag for all my tagging. I'd take one of these odd artists (David Bowie), open all his files in YATE, and then somehow look at all the tag values aross these files. It is easy in mp3tag, as I'd just select all these folders, and in mp3tag, right click, select "extended tags" and I'd see

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
garym wrote: > could be that one of those artist's tracks also includes a "featuring > artist xxx" and somehow has a ARTISTSORT tag included. I'd bet a lot > that this is caused by stray ARTISTSORT tags. (and as noted, if this is > in even one track by this artist, it can affect how ALL

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread garym
jotap_66 wrote: > It could be, but New Order and David Bowie in 'S'. I will take a look. > > Thank you very much > > JP could be that one of those artist's tracks also includes a "featuring artist xxx" and somehow has a ARTISTSORT tag included. I'd bet a lot that this is caused by stray

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread jotap_66
d6jg wrote: > Look carefully at your tags for all Bryan Adams tracks. If there is one > track with an ARTISTSORT tag that says Adams, Bryan then that is why. > That single instance effects every Bryan Adams track. > > It will be similar for other artist issues. It could be, but New Order and

Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Bad sorting in LMS 8.1.1 and artistas

2021-07-29 Thread d6jg
Look carefully at your tags for all Bryan Adams tracks. If there is one track with an ARTISTSORT tag that says Adams, Bryan then that is why. That single instance effects every Bryan Adams track. It will be similar for other artist issues. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room*