Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


Staying with Logitech, but slightly changing the subject by way of
illustration of variety of user experience - the Harmony all-in-one
remotes.  I **loved** them, and had them "perfectly" set up - and I was
the only person who ever picked them up (well, more than once.). 
Different folks / different strokes, I guess.  Anyway, I haven't been
married for well over 40 years without knowing when I'm beat!



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Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Persuading the family to use "2" for R4 shows that they can accept the
> radical!
> 
> Here
> 1 France Inter 
> 2 FIP
> 3 Radio Paradise
> 4 BBC R4
> 5 FIP Monde
> 6 BBC 6Music

Damn - I never thought of that...  But, let's just say that, not
being R1 or R2 folks (nor 5 and 6 neither), we start with 3 in 1st
place!  I'm still shuddering at the dark day when 7 became part of the 4
family!



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Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
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1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


cpd73 wrote: 
> Well, with Material you can pin your favourites to its home screen -
> this, IMHO, makes things easier, as you don't need to remember a number
> mapping and the station logo is on the first screen you see.

Agreed - and I have a nice list of Favorites of all sorts, pinned. 
Madame AGBAGB on the other hand..



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Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread cpd73


agbagb wrote: 
> I agree in so far as I have never myself found the need.  However,
> having got Madame AGBAGB to put an LMS app on her phone, she did enquire
> why she could not simply continue to do the thing she best understands -
> 1 for BBC R3, 2 for R4, 3 for 4Ex and 4 for France Culture.  She has a
> point (as ever) .  I love the precise control of quite complex audio
> that the LMS world gives me (brilliantly well-supported by the Resident
> Geniuses here...); others though want to use the same physical kit in a
> far, far simpler way.

Well, with Material you can pin your favourites to its home screen -
this, IMHO, makes things easier, as you don't need to remember a number
mapping and the station logo is on the first screen you see.



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(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
will be logged here.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread Paul Webster


agbagb wrote: 
> 1 for BBC R3, 2 for R4, 3 for 4Ex and 4 for France Culture.
Persuading the family to use "2" for R4 shows that they can accept the
radical!

Here
1 France Inter 
2 FIP
3 Radio Paradise
4 BBC R4
5 FIP Monde
6 BBC 6Music



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author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc),
planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc
australia and cbc/radio-canada
and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


kidstypike wrote: 
> I agree, Squeeze Ctrl shows a maximum of 7 presets, there ain't no way
> in this world I could remember what I've assigned to a preset,
> especially if all players differed. :confused:
> 
> Since Material, I'm afraid Squeeze Ctrl, doesn't get much of an airing.

Just to expand, for family use, every player (9 at the last count) has
exactly the same presets.  And those presets - for us - are almost
entirely radio streams, plus a couple of soothing ambient sounds.
Personally, I do far more complicated things with "my" LMS, devices and
software controllers.  But I don't get family accord on a budget for
shiny new speakers that I and and only I can get to deliver what is
wanted...



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread kidstypike


cpd73 wrote: 
> Material used to support showing the presets, but I removed this. I fail
> to see the point when you can use favourites, which have icons. I can
> see the point of presets on a hardware device, but not on a software
> controller.

I agree, Squeeze Ctrl shows a maximum of 7 presets, there ain't no way
in this world I could remember what I've assigned to a preset,
especially if all players differed. :confused:

Since Material, I'm afraid Squeeze Ctrl, doesn't get much of an airing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


cpd73 wrote: 
> Material used to support showing the presets, but I removed this. I fail
> to see the point when you can use favourites, which have icons. I can
> see the point of presets on a hardware device, but not on a software
> controller.


I agree in so far as I have never myself found the need.  However,
having got Madame AGBAGB to put an LMS app on her phone, she did enquire
why she could not simply continue to do the thing she best understands -
1 for BBC R3, 2 for R4, 3 for 4Ex and 4 for France Culture.  She has a
point (as ever) .  I love the precise control of quite complex audio
that the LMS world gives me (brilliantly well-supported by the Resident
Geniuses here...); others though want to use the same physical kit in a
far, far simpler way.



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread cpd73


agbagb wrote: 
> 'Morning All,
> 
> I have Presets on all my Radios (via the hardware buttons) and on my
> Touches (via the numeric keypad on the remotes).  Is there a way of
> selecting a Player within the LMS GUI (or, eg, MaterialSkin on a phone /
> pad) and then selecting one of the Presets to play?  I use the Default
> GUI usually, and I can't see a way of doing this.  It would be
> especially handy from the phone / pad apps, as the phone would then
> effectively replace the dedicated remote

Material used to support showing the presets, but I removed this. I fail
to see the point when you can use favourites, which have icons. I can
see the point of presets on a hardware device, but not on a software
controller.



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(Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update
messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open
console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


kidstypike wrote: 
> The only Phone app that I know of that can do this is Squeeze Ctrl on
> Android.
> 
> 36480

Ahh - thanks!  I've never used SqueezeCtrl, but I'll give it a try.  In
a perfect world I'd find a iPhone app that does the same - me, I'm an
Android and PC chap through and through, but there are mad-for-Mac folks
in the household!



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread kidstypike


agbagb wrote: 
> 'Morning All,
> 
> I have Presets on all my Radios (via the hardware buttons) and on my
> Touches (via the numeric keypad on the remotes).  Is there a way of
> selecting a Player within the LMS GUI (or, eg, MaterialSkin on a phone /
> pad) and then selecting one of the Presets to play?  I use the Default
> GUI usually, and I can't see a way of doing this.  It would be
> especially handy from the phone / pad apps, as the phone would then
> effectively replace the dedicated remote

The only Phone app that I know of that can do this is Squeeze Ctrl on
Android.

36480


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*Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 8.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] New in 7.9.2: Presets editor

2021-12-17 Thread agbagb


'Morning All,

I have Presets on all my Radios (via the hardware buttons) and on my
Touches (via the numeric keypad on the remotes).  Is there a way of
selecting a Player within the LMS GUI (or, eg, MaterialSkin on a phone /
pad) and then selecting one of the Presets to play?  I use the Default
GUI usually, and I can't see a way of doing this.  It would be
especially handy from the phone / pad apps, as the phone would then
effectively replace the dedicated remote



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855)
2 x SqueezeAmps

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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