Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
slartibartfast wrote: > I just played 24 tracks with no repeat artists using the balance > setting. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I harbor no illusion that others are experiencing this phenomena. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > I'll give that a try and report back as soon as another "new or changed" > rescan finishes.I just played 24 tracks with no repeat artists using the > balance setting. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
slartibartfast wrote: > What happens if you change the random mix setting back to the faster > setting? That was the original default. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I'll give that a try and report back as soon as another "new or changed" rescan finishes. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > Tens of thousands of hours over the last 13 or so years. Suddenly, I can > see one artist, or one segment of my library take up 4-6 slots out of > every ten. I can judge that something's wrong instantly. I can sit there > and reload a random song mix over and over and see this behavior ten out > of ten times. It's new.What happens if you change the random mix setting back > to the faster setting? That was the original default. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
slartibartfast wrote: > How long are you letting random mix play to judge the song mix? I > haven't really left it running more than an hour or so. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Tens of thousands of hours over the last 13 or so years. Suddenly, I can see one artist, or one segment of my library take up 4-6 slots out of every ten. I can judge that something's wrong instantly. I can sit there and reload a random song mix over and over and see this behavior ten out of ten times. It's new. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > I only use the webUI or an app. I only telnetted in to run that one > command because I had no choice. I never initiate random mix from the > command line.How long are you letting random mix play to judge the song mix? I haven't really left it running more than an hour or so. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
slartibartfast wrote: > I have no idea if that setting applies to CLI commands. What happens if > you just use the webUI to start a random song mix? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I only use the webUI or an app. I only telnetted in to run that one command because I had no choice. I never initiate random mix from the command line. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > That's how mine is set.I have no idea if that setting applies to CLI > commands. What happens if you just use the webUI to start a random song mix? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
That's how mine is set. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > After all these years, I learn there are options? Where are they? I > don't think I changed anything? Here. 34718 +---+ |Filename: balanced.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34718| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP v7.0.1 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 7.0.1/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 6.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
slartibartfast wrote: > Which random mix option are you using, faster or balanced? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk After all these years, I learn there are options? Where are they? I don't think I changed anything? jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
jstraw wrote: > On a lark, I restarted the machine running 8.2.0. It didn't help. > > This is very weird.Which random mix option are you using, faster or balanced? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
On a lark, I restarted the machine running 8.2.0. It didn't help. This is very weird. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
And the answer is yes. Another part of my library is now dominating random songs. Has anyone else reported anything similar? jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
So the more accurate math is that 3.4% of my library was generating 50+% of random song play. This is maybe three days old, max. It may just be since I installed 8.2.0. I've moved part of the directory tree out of library and an am currently scanning for new and changed files. Maybe something else will begin to dominate random songs. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Welcome!
bpa wrote: > I have no recollection about your issue. Create a new thread or revive > an old relevant one - it may now be an issue which affects more people > - A Welcome thread is an unlikely place to post a LMS bug issue. I didn't post a bug issue. I winked over a bug issue I was quite sufficiently beaten up over in 2011. I could go back to that thread if I wanted to get beaten up again. I'm not sure I do. I came up to ask where I could find out what fix #601 is, because I couldn't figure out where to ask. I got the pointer. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54748 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
mherger wrote: > > I now think I broke random songs as evidenced by "414 Request-URI Too > > Large" being reported. I think there are too many entries on the > genre > > list to make adjustments through the web interface. Solving problem > #2 > > may involve a command line fix that I've forgotten. > > What command line fix? Is this using some custom code on your end? Telnetting in and running the "randomplaygenreselectall 1" command, which I just did, and fixed problem #2. Problem #1 persists. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Welcome!
jstraw wrote: > Thanks. I was hoping something had changed with regard to my ancient > album art pet peeve. ;) I have no recollection about your issue. Create a new thread or revive an old relevant one - it may now be an issue which affects more people - A Welcome thread is an unlikely place to post a LMS bug issue. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54748 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
I now think I broke random songs as evidenced by "414 Request-URI Too Large" being reported. I think there are too many entries on the genre list to make adjustments through the web interface. Solving problem #2 may involve a command line fix that I've forgotten. What command line fix? Is this using some custom code on your end? ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
I now think I broke random songs as evidenced by "414 Request-URI Too Large" being reported. I think there are too many entries on the genre list to make adjustments through the web interface. Solving problem #2 may involve a command line fix that I've forgotten. jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How random is random?
Random mix problem #1: For the last several days, one artist that is admittedly heavily represented in my very large library, but still represents only a percent or two of the total, has been showing up as anywhere from 40% to 75% of the tracks when I load random songs. Random mix problem #2: That artist frequently has the artist name set as a genre. I just went and unchecked that genre and now the "loading" spinner has been running for about five minutes and counting after trying to play random songs with that genre unchecked and saved. I can't play random songs now. Any thoughts? jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114355 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Welcome!
bpa wrote: > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114504-Issue-with-Favorites-Icons Thanks. I was hoping something had changed with regard to my ancient album art pet peeve. ;) jstraw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54748 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio Stations ALL Go dead
Paul Webster wrote: > During your overnight scan you will have 2 copies of the database (at > least that is my recollection, I have not double checked). So if the > remaining space is close to the size of your databases files then it > could explain it. Well, changing the destination of the DB appears to have solved the issue! tks to all P phamilton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71785 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114601 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Why does networking go south?
It's complicated. As you have not provided any details on version, nor stations - only a general answer can be given. In any case this is my opinion - there is nothing certain but some specific instances can be examined and maybe fixed. Network connection from LMS to station has many layers (e.g. LMS, Perl, OS, NIC, Router, ISP, CDN, Server farm, Station, security) and each one can have a cache or some sort of "memory". So a network problem can persist because the cache is returning an "old " error and not bothering doing a complete request. Caching has been around for a long time. On telephone networks if you call a number and it fails (e.g. engaged) and you call the number immediately afterward the exchange can be programmed, if time interval is too short, to not retry the call but return last failed tone - this is to avoid overload of network. In the case of network connections, resetting a system (e.g. LMS, Picore, Router) breaks the associations at various levels and so some of the caches are cleared. This is often the reason why something works if you leave it alone overnight or for a period of time. wget or curl just start, run and then stop - no point to caching within the application also at an OS level - the process will change for each so caching will be minimal (e.g maybe DNS) and so forth. LMS is unlike simple applications like VLC, wget, curl etc. in that it stays up & running often for hours, days, week non stop. it is also single threaded and has to handle many players which will be accessing many of the same sources (e.g. Tune-in, Spotify, MAI). So it has lots of measure to improve performance main one is caches. Caches have a maximum size and also expiry times. Entries can be "refreshed" and expiry times reset. If a connection attempt fails, then LMS will cache the result (unless told not ot cache) and return the errors until the cache expires. I think sometimes, if the user retries often, they get the cached failed response so a connection will remain "fail" for a period of time even though the initial "fail" problem may have been transient. In your specific case - "connection timeout" there may be other issues making things worse. In the last 12 month this error has become very closely associated with https connection problems. The best https support is on latest system. LMS http support was improved from 7.9.4 but mainly 8.0 & 8.1 IIRC even small changes up to onwards up to 8.1.2. LMS relies on SSL/TLS support from the OS so if the underlying OS is not up to date then for example the latest TLS level may not available to LMS and some station require it. Most stations use CDNs/server farms to handle network traffic and there has been cases where some CDN nodes/servers requires https whereas other did not - for the same station so depending on load balancing a https connection may or may not be required. There are also some cases where some stations refuse LMS request yet work OK on other players. I know of one such instance where LMS uses a UA string for HTTP requests which identifies it as "iTunes" but an old version and so the station rejects LMS requests based on the UA string. I think a recent "mixcloud" plugin issue also had similar problem. So without specific information on versions and problem URL - it is not possible to say whether your problem is generic or whether there are some instances which can be fixed. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114600 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Hide players in LMS and iPeng
Hi I have tho HomePod minis paired together as a stereo pair. I have also created, using the Group plugin, one player which addresses both, Left only left channel, Right only right channel. Works nicely. But I still see the Left and Right HomePods, which are included via the AirPlay Bridge plugin. Is it possible to hide these Left and Right speakers from view and only see the Group player? Thanks, Rainer rkrug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114605 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
