OK, let's see if I can sum up what were the problems I had, which I
hadn't and which were solved.
1) Problem playing large wav or flac files. This was my greatest
concern, because I could open the file and see the tracks inside with
LMS, but couldn't play them. Problem solved.
2) Problem
To all of you, thank you for trying to help, and please excuse my
impatience or plain ignorance, or my impatience due to plain ignorance.
The task of this project was to have a very good audio managing system,
that I could control in my listening room with plain remote controls (no
cell phones
In spite of my confusion and efforts to understand the logic of how
these things work, I must say I am very pleased that most of the
problems I had have been solved.
So here goes a big thanks for what you already helped me achieve.
Perhaps I may get or not to use the cue file as I was used
kidstypike wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.
>
> I've just done as I suggested, (deleted Library.db) restarted LMS, and a
> scan is already running . . . finished, and look at the speed of it!
>
>
OK, sorry, I hadn't understood that db files were data base files.
JohnB wrote:
> Unless things have changed, I think that carlmart has the correct music
> library folder (C:\Musica)
>
> Just in order to have a clean start, what I would do is the following
> (no guarantees it will solve what ever the problem is):
>
> Stop LMS (right
>
> [19-08-21 15:12:11.0740] main::main (205) Starting Logitech Media Server
> scanner (v7.9.2, 1565967976, Fri Aug 16 17:08:05 WEDT 2019) perl
> 5.014001
> [19-08-21 15:12:11.1527] Slim::Schema::forceCommit (2144) Warning:
> Trying to commit transactions before DB is initialized!
> [19-08-21
kidstypike wrote:
> The Scanner log is at the bottom of the page in your picture.
So?...
You want me to copy the log when the albums are zero?
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Show us the scanner log.
>
I had shown it to you what happened when doing this:
Rescan Media Library:
- choose: Clear library and rescan everything
- click on Rescan (Ler Directoria)
Click on "Scanning - View Progress"
Look at the albums: they are zeroed.
To get
JohnB wrote:
> Forgive be for butting in but I suggest:
>
> In Web browser interface:
>
> Select Settings - you should end up on the Settings tab
>
> Media Folders:
> - only have C:\Musica (using the top slot, as you already have)
> - delete the C:\Users\cem\Videos
> - delete the
They are not.
That's an automatic assignment that LMS did, which I didn't find
important to correct. Should I?
My video folders are on other HDDs, and I do not have a picture folder.
Should I delete those on LMS?
bpa wrote:
> Looks like did not follow my earlier instructions# exactly but doing
> very well if English is not 1st language.
English not being my 1st language is not the problem. I think that end
is quite alright, just not making myself understand, and that is not 1st
or 2nd language related.
bpa wrote:
> LMS took 1 secs to scan 5496 tracks ? Are you sure you choose "clear
> database & rescan everything" option ?
Scanned again choosing "clear databas...". This is what I got.
Also lost all my albums. Isn't there a conflict anywhere? What I'm
losing?
bpa wrote:
> What does your scan result look like compare to below ?
> 28024
This is my scan result right now, with all albums visible and working.
What can you say about it?
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bpa wrote:
> If you are using Microsoft Edge browser - stop using it - it is buggy.
>
> Use Firefox, Chrome, Chromium etc.
No, I only use Firefox. Hate all others!
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bpa wrote:
> If you are using the My Music/Album menu item - then cue will not be
> shown. Photo has nothing to do with cue.
> 28026
> If you are using My Music/ Music Folder - then you will see WAV and cue
> files.
> 28025
I've lost the My Music folder on LMS. I don't know why or how can I
bpa wrote:
> WHat is the result of "clear library & rescan everything" and rescan
>
> What does your scan result look like compare to below ?
> 28024
Bad move!
This made me lose all my albums again!
I had to rescan things again, as shown on the file with the red arrow to
get my albums
OK, some improvements. What caused them is for you to explain, if
possible.
Now LMS opens the wav file in tracks, and everyone plays fine.
The cue file is not shown, but it seems as if the album photo is acting
as the cue. Is it?
I don't know if I'm being clear.
In all I think the advance
Done. Now what?
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slartibartfast wrote:
> Change your Playlist folder to
> C:\Musica\Playlists
You mean on my Music folder add \playlists?
That's because of LMS defaults?
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OK, albums are back!
I clicked here, then Apply, and the albums came back.
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bpa wrote:
> 1. from Control panel stop LMS and when it has clearly stopped, start it
> again
Done
> 2. Check from Explorer that there are albums in c:\musica and albums
> have content.
Done. They are all there.
> 3. Using browser access LMS web interface and Settings/Basic Settings -
>
Let's start with the LMS control panel setup.
This is how mine looks right now, with only a few albums.
Please let me know what else should filled in and whether this throws
some light on what might be happening.
Do let me know what other images you might need, if that would help
Can we check things over again on the LMS setup?
I've lost most of the albums I had listed on LMS and on the PCP list.
And I don't know why.
The folder c:\musica, where I have all my albums is missing.
carlmart's
mrw wrote:
> Well, here are my findings on a linux box:
>
> Running LMS with LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8, I seem to have @calmart's problem.
> The cue file (@JohnB's offering) won't play. LMS does seem to use 'full
> stop' regardless of the environment, and flac fails as @reinholdk
> describes.
>
> I
OK. I implemented the language change. It seems a move in the right
direction, even if not complete yet.
What did change is that now I can play the large wav files, which I
couldn't before. A great thing.
The cue command refuses to work. Says: empty.
The other thing that changed is that the
AFAIK only English language countries use dot and comma different from
the rest of European countries.
Comma (,) for decimals.
Dot (.) for thousands or millions.
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Can you tell me EXACTLY where to pick that information? I can then pick
the right infor for you.
For keyboard I use US international.
Is this the info you need? How can that affect LMS?
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|Filename: region.jpg
Then the other.
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OK. First one
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|Filename: message#3.jpg|
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OK, copied as it is.
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JohnB wrote:
> carlmart,
>
> I was about to suggest doing the test that mrw mentioned.
>
> This will test whether the tokenized command line behaves properly. The
> only difference is that it will save the output to a flac file rather
> than it being streamed.
>
>
mrw wrote:
> I don't think we've seen the result of the tests suggested by @JohnB
> whose purpose is to verify that the pipeline commands were working as
> expected, when executed from the command line. That may help narrow down
> the cause.
Which are exactly the tests that JohnB suggested?
So it seems there's no apparent solution in the distance.
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bpa wrote:
> Windows based LMS require the use an application called "socketwrapper"
> to make transcoding work.
>
> I've just remembered that socketwrapper can be affected by some security
> s/w - it hasn't been a problem recently but just in case.
>
> What security s/w is running on the
paul- wrote:
> I would never use a windows product as a media server, but to each his
> own. A rpi3B+ is plenty powerful enough to run LMS, and especially if
> you only have one player. There are many users running LMS with a PI
> Zero. There are many many installations using rpi devices.
What would be the point of that?
I would never use the Rasberry as a server.
My server for now is my PC, but I will assemble another one, that I
already have the parts of, with an Asus mobo and Intel CPU, with proper
power supply for the 3.5" SATA HDDs. Server program will be Linux.
But
JohnB wrote:
> carlmart,
>
> Following on from bpa's comment:
>
> Did you install LMS on your piCorePlayer (as well as on your PC)?
No, I did not. Do I have to? I thought that was only installed if the
server would be on the Raspberry.
> Can you play FLAC files using L
bpa wrote:
> carlmart,
>
> I'm still looking back over the thread but just to eliminate the
> possibility of two LMS - on the WebUI can you check what players are
> available in the drop down box at top right similar to below
>
>
OK, it seems t
Well, I followed your advice, uninstalling LMS and installing it again.
Nothing changed. Cue not working.
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bpa wrote:
> Agree - I think a troll would not bother with creating the logs with all
> the detail. I think the OP is a new user who is using LMS or setup LMS
> in an unexpected way especially as early-on there was a bit of confusion
> of the roles of PCP and LMS.
Yes, I'm a new LMS user, and
kidstypike wrote:
> 20 minutes later, nothing in my "File Request" folder!
>
> Can someone else use the link to upload say a simple text file, with
> your forum name, just to verify the upload link works ok?
>
> Thanks
I'm sorry. My upload connection is absolutely awful.
The neighborhood I
kidstypike wrote:
> Upload to my Dropbox here:
> https://www.dropbox.com/request/kLQAXLq2ipPPVbM0COuw
>
> I'll share with others when I have the files.
OK, I connected to your request. Supposedly I'm uploading.
mherger wrote:
>
> Please try to find the smallest sample file you can share. Without being
>
> sure that it's not the files it's really hard to understand what's going
> on.
>
I edited a new cue, basing on the original text from another album.
This time I left just one track.
This cue
Who am I to comment about those details in the numbers inside the cue
file, and if that might be the problem.
But shouldn't I mention that that absolutely none of the cue files works
in my whole album collection? It's impossible for all the cue files to
be wrong.
Yes, the program is playing audio, and quite well. That's why I keep
insisting on this matter.
The only things that do not work, for some reason I can't yet
understand, are the cue commands and the large wav files.
The large files should be opened by the cue command to play the tracks.
So I
This is what I got with that command.
Is it correct?
If you can, please explain to me what is happening and if there's
anything that can done to solve it.
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|Filename: flac.jpg
The text is longer, but the browser didn't let me put it all.
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JohnB wrote:
> I've tested carlmart's "Al Di Meola - Casino" cue file with a
> miscellaneous wave file of my own and everything works as it should.
>
> Can we please go back to basics because I think there has been quite a
> bit of confusion.
>
> carlmart, I
bpa wrote:
> I just ripped a CD and created a WAV and cue file and am able to play it
> through LMS Web UI. The CD appears as an album and all the tracks are
> OK.
>
> To check that LMS is parsing the cue file correctly carlmart could
> enable logging formats.playlist to DE
I tried to rar it and it didn't work. With zip it did.
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Greg Erskine wrote:
> Good point JohnB. It's probably worth mentioning to carlmart that most
> of use "other" interfaces to drive LMS. I use the LMS Browser interface
> for setup and testing only.
>
> I normally use:
>
> pCP's random button
> jivelite on R
I'm trying to upload the original cue file, as I was asked to, but the
Attachments Manager does not allow it. It claims it's not a valid file.
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OK, a PC reboot got things back on line.
Just a question which might be important. To save the cue using Notepad,
should I save it encoding as ANSI or what? That might be important.
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As I was away for a few hours, just now can I try the promising things
you suggest.
The first I did was using the cue file JohnB rewrote, making a new cue
file, that I put on the original album menu, moving the original cue to
a folder. Then rescannned.
But now I do not know why I can't
The problem is how LMS works with cue files.
What explanation then for the test I was proposed, where I download a
cue file and a wav file.
The cue file opens the wav file perfectly in VLC, but it doesn't open it
in LMS.
What other proof do you need that something in LMS is not negotiating
Paul Webster wrote:
> Did you initiate another scan after you copied in the wav/cue ?
No problem in doing another scan. Results will be the same.
Just looked for another album with a large wav file and a cue file.
Exactly the same results.
> If your existing .cue files had no effect then
kidstypike wrote:
> Can you upload one of your troublesome single WAV & CUE files to a file
> sharing site, to see if anyone else has trouble plating the tracks?
Not practical. The file I'm using as an example now, by Al Di Meola, has
390MB.
JohnB wrote:
> PM sent with link and details of the files.
>
> Let us know how you get on.
Tested the files.
Wave file played alright.
Cue file did nothing.
The wave file playing doesn't prove much, as I have a lot of albums with
separate wav tracks and a cue file. With LMS the files
JohnB wrote:
> I don't know what bpa might suggest but if it would help I would be
> happy to give you the download link to a folder which contains a short
> wave file plus the associated cue file that I know definitely work on my
> LMS.
>
> You could copy the folder to your music library,
Paul Webster wrote:
> Let's get rid of the problem enabling LAME ... which might help.
>
> I think you are running LMS on a Windows machine ... so try the
> instructions at
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/LAME_for_transcoding
> Note ... that is an old wiki page so might not be 100%
Paul Webster wrote:
> How about playing one of the problem .wav files in VLC (where it works)
> and in VLC choose Tools/Codec Information and then post here what VLC
> says about the file?
Here it is file playing in VLS and the codec used.
Anything is wrong there?
JohnB wrote:
> Using the LMS browser interface - In Music Folders:
> If I click on the "Play" button, to the right of the cue file nothing
> happens.
> However, if I click *on* the cue file name all the "songs" in the cue
> file are displayed (on the left) and each one can be played, e.g.
>
>
bpa wrote:
> The OP has been interested in playing DSD files. Perhaps their WAV
> files are in fact in DSD format in which case there will be confusion
> about which rules to apply
>
> We need to be sure of the details of the "wav" files. Once determined -
> then figure out if cue /WAV or
JohnB wrote:
> I've converted one of my m4a+cue files to wav+cue and it plays perfectly
> using the default filetype settings, via Artists, Albums, and even via
> the cue file in Music Folders (though it takes longer to find the start
> point with wav files), so my apologies for my earlier
bpa wrote:
> LMS is a complex system which has many capabilities. Each user of LMS
> (and its various players of which PCP) tends to use only a limited amoun
> so no one user has knowledge of all of LMS - mherger has the best
> overall knowledge and knowledge of the internals. As a result you
kidstypike wrote:
> Yes, upload the log files here!
Should I place both server and scanner log files here?
How many lines? They would be huge! Perhaps just part of it?
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slartibartfast wrote:
> This is the first time you have mentioned this error message. Under
> settings/ advanced/file types what settings do you have for wav files.
It was suggested to me, on the PCP topic, to do the following to make
the cue files work:
- within the WAV section: change PCM
> So to be clear the tracks inside the wav file appear in the left hand
> browsing window of the LMS web interface but when you click on them they
> won't play? Are you navigating via Artists/Albums?
Yes to both questions. It's not one album, it's the same for all wav
files with several tracks
> I think that this stems from you making your selection of music from the
> music folder area.
> Most people start from the menu items Artist or Album or Genre and
> therefore do not need any knowledge of how the file system or what the
> file names are or even that there are .cue files
>
> I
slartibartfast wrote:
> But the tracks will always appear a separate tracks. You can still play
> the whole album.
No, if the file is just one wav file with all the tracks inside, LMS
won't play the album. I thought I made that clear.
> You have been told that you cannot play by clicking on
I can only play the tracks when they come as separate ones, no matter if
there's a cue sheet or not. That I can work with.
When the wav file has all the tracks inside I can't play it.
Why can't we concentrate on the cue file and why LMS doesn't respond to
it?
It seems as if cue files are
Let's try to make things more clear then:
1) Problem one: clicking on the cue files does not work EVER. How do I
solve that, making the cue file start the play?
2) Problem two: clicking on the wav file, when it contains all the
themes, does not work EVER. As a result I can't never play those
mherger wrote:
> > How can I do to play my music files that need a cue file to run?
>
> Browse Artists, Albums, whatever, but not the music folder. That's not
> supported.
I just tried accessing the album through Artist. No play.
If I'm not wrong, accessing from Artists or Albums you use
Here's the other access I can use to the album, where the cue file
shows.
> Don't click on the cue file then, problem solved.
When I have just one large wav file, the album doesn't play clicking on
the cue or the wav file.
I thought I made that clear.
Albums with separate wav files for themes, instead of one unique wav
file for all, will work if you click on the themes. Never on the cue
file.
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Clicking on any of the red arrowed points will work.
The same thing happens with the Raspberry PCP cue or themes files.
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When I say "press" it means "click".
I click on the cue file, either on web LMS or on the PCP Raspberry
screen, with a mouse.
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The album plays on Windows, pressing the cue file, with VLC, for
instance.
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Yes, that is exactly what I mean. Look at one of those cue sheets.
REM GENRE Jazz
REM DATE 1978
REM DISCID 55090906
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb5"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
TITLE "Casino"
FILE "Al Di Meola - Casino.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Egyptian Danza"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
This is an example of cue file that doesn't play.
REM GENRE Jazz
REM DATE 1978
REM DISCID 55090906
REM COMMENT "ExactAudioCopy v0.99pb5"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
TITLE "Casino"
FILE "Al Di Meola - Casino.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "Egyptian Danza"
PERFORMER "Al Di Meola"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
Neither clicking on the cue file or the wav file do I get it to play.
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How can I do to play my music files that need a cue file to run?
When I press on the cue file I get an "Empty" result.
Several of my wav files have been ripped as one large wav file, with all
the separate themes inside, which only the cue can separate and play.
I am trying to run it with
Made the change as instructed.
It continues to appear the word "empty" when I press on the "cue" file.
The problem is with the undivided, one piece wav files, where all the
musics are one after the other.
Nothing happens if I press the cue file, neither if it opens the music
files list. It's
I don't get it.
This question with the cue files is related to PCP or LMS?
Is there some place I can go place this question, if it's not related
with PCP?
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Can you please load here just one sample cue that works alright with
PCP.
All my cues work fine with VLC, for instance, but not with PCP.
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Hooray! Complete success.
DSD playing with great quality.
DAC shows 352.2KHz oversampling, and music plays great.
Thanks a lot!
Now the next question, more current than DSD files certainly. How do I
do to play cue commands?
How do I get to the LMS settings screen?
It is not through the Control Panel that I have installed.
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OK, I'm back. So first things first.
Can someone tell me what is happening with my cue files that do not work
on my PCP? What should I do to make them work?
Second, what about DSD files? Is there a plugin I have to use? Are there
instructions on how to install it and use it?
My Topping D50
paul- wrote:
> Last I saw you were using an old version of lms. 7.9.2 is fine. Did
> you install the DSDplay plugin?
>
> Squeezelite is the software running on you device using pCP.
> Squeezelite will play whatever is streamed, its the server task to
> read the file and create the stream.
Perhaps I'd need to say that I was quite pleased with the audio quality
results I could get from the PCP tests I've done so far.
My questions about how to handle DSD files and cue sheets are because I
would like to start using it.
Paul Webster wrote:
> .cue files are supported by LMS.
> Can you post an example of the first 10 or so lines of one of your .cue
> files that does not seem to work?
> (They are plain text so you can open in Notepad to read one)
>
> Is the .cue file in the same location as the big audio file on
paul- wrote:
> You are not going to be able to play DSD without upgrading your LMS
> server... which is on your windows PC.
OK, what should I upprade on the LMS? My version is 7.9.2.
> Cue file support also has nothing to do with pCP, you need to be looking
> at your server.
OK, but why
This answer seems to indicate there is a way for playing DSD with PCP
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108593-piCorePlayer-DSD-playback=943120=1#post943120
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It seems PCP doesn't play DSD files, at least those I tried. Is that so?
It seems PCP doesn't read or can use cue files, from CDs you ripped on
one large file, with a cue.
Why won't it read the large file anyway, in flac or wav? Any audio
program does.
mherger wrote:
> > Something did create all those folders on LMS and organized the
> folders
> > and records in a certain way. I did not.
>
> I think what you're referring to isn't "folders", but menus, or
> categories in the UI. If you want to browse your music the way you
> organized it on
Something did create all those folders on LMS and organized the folders
and records in a certain way. I did not.
If it was not LMS, what program did that?
I assume it has to be stored in some temp file, or will it disappear
when I turn my PC off or reboot Firefox.
Where are those folders
OK, I will try to find other PCP users that have used my DAC (Topping
D50), and find out if anyone was better.
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Playing around with the controls and selections on the LMS web page it
seems I can control everything on the PCP.
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OK. It seems a reboot is necessary for new settings to work.
Having a STOP button would be nice.
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kidstypike wrote:
> LMS does not create folders or organise your music files within folders.
Well, someone did. I did not.
It's on my LMS web page, so
It took out artists names, for instance, that were inside separate
folders, and organized them alphabetically in an "All artists" folder,
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