Have you asked them for the source code?
That should usually be the easiest step to find out how they handle
GPL...
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Tagging WAV never worked correctly.
Youll find that the tracks will play correctly, just the durations will
be shown incorrectly.
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It all depends on how dissimilar the devices are. The more devices you
want to sync, the more similar they need to be.
An underpowered battery might cause clock drift and thats bad for sync,
for example.
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ClaudeBoulard wrote:
>
> MY goal will have 10 RPI players, and in some case I'd like to sync all
> in the same group. That was the meaning of my question.
> Hope that with a wired connection + 'powerfull' RPI server it will be
> OK.
>
If that's a common thing you want to do I'd make sure:
Ummm, sure, a lot of us here have built such systems.
If you want to sync all 10 players together in one group youd need
players with very good timing or youll see dropouts but 3-4 per group
should also work with a RPi.
You should not run a player on the RPi that runs the server, it will lag
Regarding ads: iPeng is a paid app and an expensive one as well. There's
no way I'm going to do ads in iPeng.
For this (Cloud based solution with running costs) it would have to be a
subscription.
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Mnyb wrote:
> Just so we are at the same page . The VPN solutions used for this
> purpose is not the same as you use to log on to work or a custommer site
> or redirect all our web browser traffic or to,pretend you in a different
> country anything like that .
> These will probably have unwanted
ere any existing open source software, that's fairly well tested,
> that could be used to piece something like this together 75% of the
> way?
>
> Finally on the subject, since the major players in this space believe
> this issue to be a dead/silly idea/not worth the effort, I'll dr
markm wrote:
>
> Use whatever business model you want, if you want - that was not my
> primary point.
> I only brought it up to point out that there could be money to be made
> by having established products enhance their product by adapting this
> tech into their tech.
>
So since this
And regarding your other questions: I believe there are ways to make
either the server (Daphile) or the player (SqueezeLite settings) either
but Im not sure.
Per default, a Squeezebox will multiply the signal value with the volume
and als in addition to that with replay gain values (if enabled)
No, replay gain is always negative in a Squeezebox system (smaller than
one as a factor, negative dB)
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DJanGo wrote:
>
> sounds like a great Idea, but remember there are not only fritzboxusers
> outside and there are fritzboxusers outside ;-)
>
Sure. But besides Fritz!Box... most routers you'd buy yourself today
have VPN-functionality. OK, granted, some of the cheapo-devices ISPs
give away
There's this:
https://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-the-iphone-skin-for-squeezecenter/how-to-use-the-ipeng-application/known-issues/coolios-guide-to-remote-playback/
That said: I definitely do NOT recommend to open a port to the internet
instead of using a VPN, it's not safe.
We plan to add a VPN
Many thanks, Tony. Took a while (a ton of error in the tests) but
actually works, well done!
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Wasnt it SqueezeCenter->Squeezebox Server?
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Have you tried to restart the server?
Id also recommend to clear the browser cache but if you already tried
another browser thats probably moot
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Please create a separate thread and don't spam the announcement thread
with configuration questions, thanks!
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Thanks! Great news!
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baxoza wrote:
> Yes !!! it would be nice and I think it should be standard in this
> times
> LMS using plugins like Spotify, Tidal etc. where is secured protocol
> what is acceptable in plugins but LMS is ... I don't know... old skull ?
>
> I agree with this there is no ability on hardware
baxoza wrote:
> Thank You for answer.
> Yes - You are right ! So I told to specialists that the security
> firewall should be enough but security policy is required so that there
> is no unencrypted traffic so they too are right.
> Please tell me - is really unnecessary/impossible to add
dolodobendan wrote:
> Thank you, I must have missed it. I would have expected it in the
> "MultiPlayer Control" screen after pressing the "i" though, because
> that's where the server's MAC is shown. Twice. :)
Yea, if you open the server settings :)
Its because its something you need there
dolodobendan wrote:
> Does iPeng somewhere show which MAC is used? (If not, in the player info
> right under "Squeezebox Name" would be a nice spot to display it.
> [emoji14])
Settings->Advanced->Squeezebox Information->
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The 01:... players are probably iPeng instances.
Since Apple doesnt allow Apps to track users anymore, you will get a
new one every time you uninstall and reinstall iPeng.
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I think that option is somewhat broken. I believe it will act on all
players if the master in the group has the option enabled and separately
if the master has the option disabled.
Problem is, whenever you power off a master the master changes...
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I think what he wants to do is use LMS as a server for UPnP devices
using a UPnP controller and that doesnt work with plugins.
What you can do is use UPnPBridge to play to a UPnP device from the LMS
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No.
These plugins only create menus, no structure data.
UPnP cant use menus, only tracks and streams.
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Im still confused. Barberousse seems to use JiveLite for control and
DJanGo the web interface, is this correct?
If they both show this same behavior it looks like more of a server
issue.
So this will also erase the existing playlist for the erroneously
playing player or does this only happen if
Sure youve selected the correct player in JiveLight?
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For reordering the current playlist? That should work on any OS.
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Works for me with Music and Artist Information plugin and iPeng.
Still limited to whats being found on Chartlyrics but of course.
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Great News!
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Ah, understood.
I always forget about the sports rights disaster (although it's just the
same over here in Europe).
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Well, they identify as Roon and not as Logitech Media Server :)
And you should not use the same because that would actually disable all
browsing in iPeng...
But if the version string that is submitted on connection would contain
some kind of information that no library is available, that would be
It would be good if that was something which could be identified right
from the server connection. Like in the http header identification or
so.
iPeng generally now supports servers without library menu entries,
something I introduced for Roon, but it needs to know this early and
its also not
Oh, and 23,000 tracks is not a rather large library by LMS standards,
Ive seen people with over a million tracks, no problems there.
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Maybe update to the latest 7.9.1 beta?
I do use LMS and iTunes with Home Sharing in the same Mac so it can
work.
That said: I dont use iTunes integration in LMS because I dont have
any iTunes playlists and LMS can scan an iTunes library simply by adding
the music folder path (and my iTunes
Same IP range is not a problem.
What makes some hotel WiFis problematic is that some hotels block VPNs
because they dont want you to use VoIP.
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With a VPN you use the IP range of the remote network.
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Bookmark plugin?
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Maybe a hack... isnt there a setting that controls whether a player
starts up powered on or off? If one player is on and the others
are off the on-player will become master.
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My setup is pretty similar and Im quite happy about it.
Its very flexible, especially if I want to set up a second server
instance for testing etc or when accessing the music from different
machines. My NAS also has RAID which makes handling disc faults and
upgrades easier.
The downside is
You can set that in the piCorePlayer settings for SqueezeLite. Not as
convenient but then the player probably stays that way
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How many players are these?
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I would say iPeng (the original web skin version) but I'm afraid it will
no longer work after the web UI changes in LMS 7.6
The same is probably true of the Handheld skin
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No, it's not an iPeng issue, it's a question of server settings.
There is no way to tell the server to play an artist by year from iPeng
so,I think your configuration is probably from the OPs. That difference
is probably the answer.
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I've synced up to 7. I think there used to be a limit of 12 or so but I
think that's no longer the case.
One thing that is important with so many players is that they are
similar.
Different device types have different timing behavior and that can cause
a lot of sync corrections which with this
A bit unlikely with ALAC. While ALAC is lossless it uses floatingpoint
PCM instead of fixed point PCM AFAIK.
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xcool wrote:
> Yes, same volume. Measured purely by my ears. I can tell the sound
> produced by my AppleTV just sound better (more details, image, range
> etc.). Again, both SB and AppleTV are routed through the same DAC in
> my case.
Your ears are not a suitable instrument to measure
Same volume? Measured how?
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Ah, on the player? But not in the web interface?
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Sure, it's on downloads.slimdevices.com.
That said: how do you enable "Songs" in 7.5.5? My 7.5 test server
doesn't have it.
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I think the web interface could do what iPeng does or at least have it
in Settings
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epoch1970 wrote:
> Perhaps the way the Don't stop the music plugin works, adding a "Sleep"
> action item somehere in the playlist?
How does this help for the widget?
I mean ... in the main interface there is already a nice shortcut (hold
the play button) but that doesn't work from the widget.
karlek wrote:
> Oops! I completely misunderstood the thread title. ;(
> And as it comes to that, sleep mode is - even before shuffle and repeat
> - the main reason why I prefer a decent RC near my SBen. :)
Yea, I totally understand that, ever since I introduced the widget in
iPeng I've
No, it's controlled by LMS and there are CLI commands and also
SqueezePlay menus for it but I think the web interface does indeed not
have it, not even in settings.
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How did you install LMS?
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Sorry, i don't understand, where are you running LMS? On the same RPi
where you also run Volumio?
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Hard to tell, I would not count on it.
Options, well, what shall _I_ say here
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Could you have two versions/instances of LMS running on the same
machine? Any manual configuration of the IP address on the NAS?
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bpa wrote:
> IIRC there has been only one rewrite of the syncing mechanism and I
> think that had to work without changing slimproto. I'm sure it could be
> done better but I don't think anyone will undertake it as the "pain"
> will probably be greater than the "rewards".
Probably.
I don't
I have always wondered this myself.
I think the reason is to make sure the players start to play in sync and
avoid excessive re-syncing which would sound bad.
To synchronize the playback the server manages each player's latency and
tells the player, where to start in the stream, the server
Does enabling Bitrate limiting help?
And you do have lame installed?
If that doesn't help, I'd ask in the plugin thread, I don't think it's
related to custom-convert in that case
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If you use more than one language or have occasional problems with
adding new services through MySB you should update to the latest 7.9.1
nightly.
Otherwise I don't think so, I don't think there are new features
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kidstypike wrote:
> Whilst LMS is scanning, replaygain doesn't work.
What effect does that have? Does it get louder or less loud? Wouldn't
replay gain usually reduce volume?
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Have a look at the "Playlist Manager" plugin
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Which LMS version is this? I think older versions never updated the DNS
entries but 7.9 should and should retry to contact MySB
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Thanks, Michael, this will help so much with telling people what to use.
And hopefully the NAS people will start to use it, too, instead of old
7.9 nightlies
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Adding to the current playlist is a simple database operation.
A stores playlist means writing to a file and probably also scanning
that file afterwards and updating the playlist in the database
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There's also some fixed-point alternate encoder for MP3 for low-powerful
devices, I think the wiki has instructions for installing it, probably
for pogpplug er al.
Will have lower quality, though
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But it still searches for the ones it hasn't found, which can take a
while, too.
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jfo wrote:
> It's late Feb version of 7.9. My library is about 1300 CD's, all FLAC,
> and 100% have art and all basic tags. I also use the M info plugin,
> with this option...
>
Well, as discussed above, 7.9 is _way_ faster than 7.8.1
>
> -Only download pictures for main artists, but not all
With LMS 7.8.1?
BTW: it also depends on how much other stuff is in the library path. I
have a lot of artwork and metadata there that also gets scanned.
And I use Music Information which also searches for artist and
album artwork online, these scan phases take up more than half of the
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> I have a similar setup and similar sized library. 45 mins isn't at all
> unreasonable for a full clear & rescan
Clear takes much longer for me. More like two hours.
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My comment was about the technical integration part.
There have been certain things Spotify has been telling people but so
far they have not yet materialized as originally announced, let's see
how this evolves.
There are more users than only the (not so few) Squeezebox users who
rely on
Let's see how this evolves over the year...
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For a full "look for new and changed music" run, that is. Only scanning
playlists can be faster if you don't have too many
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You could do a playlist-only scan
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What I mean is "tell the DAC that the stream it receives is DSD, not
PCM".
And of course it's a bitstream, however it's packed, PCM I'd also a
bitstream, just using a different encoding
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marcoc1712 wrote:
> You (the user) could choose between supporte formars. At the moment DSF
> or DFF, but SOX is adding formats, then you could choose also the new
> ones, provvided are supportet by the client and communicated via
> slimproto.
>
Ah, so you configure this in the plugin,
marcoc1712 wrote:
> LMS via C-3PO plugin is sending DSF or DFF to the player.
>
But how do you know which? I mean... if you resample to DSD you have to
know the output format, don't you? Is that normally DSF then?
>
> They are not LMS native" they are so called "native", probably starting
>
I want to support native DSD in iOS. How do you know the DAC's
capability?
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What format do you stream DSD in?
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marcoc1712 wrote:
> That's exacltly why I wrote C-3PO plugin: becouse was already feasible
> in LMS 'as is' but somehow complicated, with the plugin I hope to just
> make it easier.
>
> Don't like it? dont' use it. But it works.
But does that work with SBs, too, or only with SqueezeLite-R2?
marcoc1712 wrote:
>
>
> I agree Tweeking dac and speakers is easier, but what you lost at the
> sourse is lost... no matter how much you tweek speakers and dac.
Exactly my point. If your music plays at wrong speed or cuts out or
doesn't play at all, no speaker will ever correct that
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> That's an old story...
> We could discuss it once again or admit that someone is feeling better
> with wav, as I do with all of my players (classic, duet, SB+ and
> squeezelite on various hw and OS) and that's why I wrote squeezelite-R2
> and C-3PO.
>
> Flac is indeed very
Can KidsPlay display the menu if you request it from the CLI?
Michael, for musicfolder your don't need to use "browselibrary" to get a
menu, just adding menu:1 or menu:musicfolder to the musicfolder CLI
command will do.
The question is whether you can then get the Radio to process it.
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Ok, that's probably a pretty obscure use case for most users indeed
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Well, you could try to find one of those other threads where they
discussed the issue to see whether there is a workaround.
What kind of system is that? I mean... FLAC is such a low-impact codec
that you have to do a lot wrong in your system or software design to
make it have any impact on
Hm, wait.
In this case you should be able to just set both FLAC and PCM to native
and neither should be converted.
That way your WAV files get streamed as PCM and Qobuz as FLAC
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There are several threads on the FLAC-to-PCM thing for streams here in
the forum because it comes up from time to time.
I think phillipe44 has found some workaround for his plugins (the
bridging plugins) where he needed the capability because UPnP requires a
PCM stream to be available but I
You are right.
In this case that should work.
musicfolder url:[your URL] menu:1
Should then give you what you want
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bpa wrote:
> OP says "In my system I find that PCM sounds better than flac.".
>
I got that.
But he has wrong pitch on some tracks, Qobuz doesn't play at all, that's
the price for using PCM.
Better get a system that can properly handle FLAC if the sound is so
bad.
>
> What do you mean by
The problem is that your folder's ID might change with every clear and
rescan of the library.
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LMS doesn't support transcoding to PCM for remote tracks.
Your playback-pitch problem is also a typical PCM issue due to the lack
of format information.
Use FLAC.
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It hadn't occurred to me that there would be any stations that are
available on DAB but not as online streams. With the homeopathic
prevalence of DAB devices outside the U.K. and given the cost of DAB,
why would any station do this?
And since you can stream with any quality you want over the
OK, you should probably still notify Michael or file a bug so that it
gets fixed.
Most apps probably don't rely on this playerindex (iPeng certainly
doesn't ) but some still might.
I think the change was probably accidental, what Michael was doing was
adding the modelname and firmware fields upon
Yea, I mean there's never something like perfect security.
Generally I think if you open a port it will be hard to protect the
system against a hacker directly attacking your system in all cases.
However, that's not the most common scenario (this is a high effort
activity, want to have some
meep wrote:
> A quick update;
>
> I've managed to get a basic proxy implementation built into my plugin.
> This means that traffic from the skill will now come directly to the
> plugin and can be assessed there to ensure its legitimate. From there,
> commands are forwarded on to the LMS. This
Processing power should never be an issue for FLAC DEcoding.
Now... resampling, that's something else and for HD stuff bandwidth can
be an issue.
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