Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread slimhase

mrw wrote: 
> That presupposes that we can all agree on ‘correct’ behaviour. The
> publisher may have a different context in mind.
> 
> I think that LMS’ approach of gathering metadata from the stream being
> played works very nicely in general. Consider, for example, a live
> ‘radio’ stream that delivers track title, performer, and artwork to
> accompany the DJ’s choice of music. I’d rather have that than be stuck
> with a single station logo gathered from, say, the ‘favourites’
> listing.
> 
> Of course it requires the broadcaster/publisher to actually implement an
> appropriate scheme...

I agree 100%. (I might have not been clear on that in my earlier post -
I was just frustrated about this special podcast)
Meanwhile I checked multiple podcasts and many of them show the
'correct' individual image in the now playing screen.
Only some (like my initial example) differ. And they are not even
consistent from the same provider!
I contacted them - let's see, if I get a response.

Thanks again for your feedback.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread mrw

slimhase wrote: 
> If it would just stay with the image from the xml, all would be good
> (for these podcasts; there are probably other ones, which are
> implemented correctly)

That presupposes that we can all agree on ‘correct’ behaviour. The
publisher may have a different context in mind.

I think that LMS’ approach of gathering metadata from the stream being
played works very nicely in general. Consider, for example, a live
‘radio’ stream that delivers track title, performer, and artwork to
accompany the DJ’s choice of music. I’d rather have that than be stuck
with a single station logo gathered from, say, the ‘favourites’
listing.

Of course it requires the broadcaster/publisher to actually implement an
appropriate scheme...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread bpa


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Probably because it takes a second or so for the image to arrived as it
> is embedded inside the MP3 data.

There is similar effect with BBC podcasts in BBCiPlayer where the
duration in the program listing is different to that of the actual
podcast - initially the timebar shows program listing time and then when
playing start - on first metadata update - duration is updated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread Paul Webster


Probably because it takes a second or so for the image to arrived as it
is embedded inside the MP3 data.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread slimhase


... but what I still don't understand:
Why is LMS BRIEFLY showing the correct image (from teh xml file?) - and
then flips to the generic image (embedded in the MP3)
If it would just stay with the image from the xml, all would be good
(for these podcasts; there are probably other ones, which are
implemented correctly)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread slimhase


mrw wrote: 
> PS: Is it usual in Germany to dye the wool before it's taken off the
> sheep ? Great time saver. :)
Man in a van wrote: 
> They must be really naughty sheep as they are all wearing GPS ankle
> bracelets ! 
> 
> Must be a really scary episode :)
> 
> ronnie

:-)

Thanks also for the technical feedback earlier, mrw.

So its an issue with the provider of the podcast.
(I also just double checked and the behavior is similarly wrong when
using the TuniIn App on the Phone.
So, I'll try to contact them. (I don't expect much though)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-13 Thread Man in a van


They must be really naughty sheep as they are all wearing GPS ankle
bracelets ! 

Must be a really scary episode :)

ronnie



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-12 Thread mrw


slimhase wrote: 
> Hi Michael;
> I have the following 'problem':
> 

PS: Is it usual in Germany to dye the wool before it's taken off the
sheep ? Great time saver. :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-12 Thread mrw

slimhase wrote: 
> Hi Michael;
> I have the following 'problem':
> When I look at i.e. a podcast list, each podcast has its own unique icon
> / image.
> But when I select one podcast from the list and go to the now playing
> screen (i.e. material skin, but also std skin), it briefly shows the
> unique image, but flips back to the std. Podcast image after 1 second or
> so.
> You can try to see what I mean by including i.e. this Podcast into your
> podcast list and looking at the list (with the unique icons) and then
> select and play one (and then only see the std icon of that podcast):
> https://podcast.wdr.de/radio/hoerspiel.xml
> 

What you are seeing is the result of a mismatch between the images
supplied with the podcast listing (xml), and the images embedded within
each individual podcast episode file (mp3). I don't see any easy way to
change this behaviour.

When you browse a list of the podcast episodes, LMS will show you an
image associated with each episode, if the publisher has provided one,
or an image associated with the podcast as a whole.

When you play a podcast episode, LMS will scan the episode mp3 file for
any artwork that the publisher has included in it, and it will show you
that in the now playing screen.

If the artwork shown in the podcast listing differs from the artwork
included in the mp3 file, then, well, you have seen what happens.

Here is your publisher's web page:

https://www1.wdr.de/mediathek/audio/hoerspiel-speicher/wdr_hoerspielspeicher150.html

Notice that there is an image containing blue sheep against the second
listed episode "Die blauen Schafe – Ausflug in die Berge wird zum
Horror-Trip".
But the publisher has chosen to include a very different image in the
mp3 file, which I have extracted.

I've attached both to this post. I hope this explains the point, even
though it may not match up with your expectations.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-11 Thread bpa


mherger wrote: 
> It's still in my list of issues to look into... but it's been a busy 
> week so far.
I think this true for all - early Sept everyone back at their desks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-11 Thread Michael Herger

Unfortunately, no response so far...


It's still in my list of issues to look into... but it's been a busy 
week so far.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-11 Thread bpa


slimhase wrote: 
> Unfortunately, no response so far...
> Its a pity, as it could be that its only needs a minor correction, as
> the correct image does briefly show, but then flips back to / is
> overwritten by the generic one.
> (But then again, I can not really judge the complexity of the issue...)

I agree, it does look like only a small change is required.  However mrw
made a number of changes to support this very issue which means either
the change is broken or your podcast stream is different.
What is needed is time and original test cases (to verify any new
changes do not break other sources) and I have neither at the moment. 
The number of lines of code changed is rarely proportional to the effort
involved.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-11 Thread slimhase


bpa wrote: 
> The problem is real and the 24Jan2019 fix from mw9 to Slim/Format/XML.pm
> - doesn't seem to work for some reason.
> 
> Perhaps you could PM  mrw (I think he is the same as mw9 on github) if
> he has the time to see what is happening.

Unfortunately, no response so far...
Its a pity, as it could be that its only needs a minor correction, as
the correct image does briefly show, but then flips back to / is
overwritten by the generic one.
(But then again, I can not really judge the complexity of the issue...)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread slimhase


bpa wrote: 
> The problem is real and the 24Jan2019 fix from mw9 to Slim/Format/XML.pm
> - doesn't seem to work for some reason.
> 
> Perhaps you could PM  mrw (I think he is the same as mw9 on github) if
> he has the time to see what is happening.

Thanks bpa.
I just pm'd him. Lets see



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread bpa


slimhase wrote: 
> Thanks, Man in a van - a picture says more than 1000 words...
> 
> That shows the problem - left pane 'unique' picture of that podcast -
> but std. picture of the podcast series in the now playing screen on the
> right side
The problem is real and the 24Jan2019 fix from mw9 to Slim/Format/XML.pm
- doesn't seem to work for some reason.

Perhaps you could PM  mrw (I think he is the same as mw9 on github) if
he has the time to see what is happening.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread slimhase


Man in a van wrote: 
> 28156

Thanks, Man in a van - a picture says more than 1000 words...

That shows the problem - left pane 'unique' picture of that podcast -
but std. picture of the podcast series in the now playing screen on the
right side



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread Man in a van


slimhase wrote: 
> Hi Michael;
> I have the following 'problem':
> When I look at i.e. a podcast list, each podcast has its own unique icon
> / image.
> But when I select one podcast from the list and go to the now playing
> screen (i.e. material skin, but also std skin), it briefly shows the
> unique image, but flips back to the std. Podcast image after 1 second or
> so.
> You can try to see what I mean by including i.e. this Podcast into your
> podcast list and looking at the list (with the unique icons) and then
> select and play one (and then only see the std icon of that podcast):
> https://podcast.wdr.de/radio/hoerspiel.xml
> 
> 


28156


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread bpa


Looking at podcast source and LMS code. LMS will include itunes:image
episode image if there is a xmlns:itunes in podcast feed.  The podcast
doesn't have xmlns:itunes - so I wonder whether the podcast format has
been changed and so broke this functionality.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread bpa


It looks like this commit didn't work properly or has been
"undone"/redendered ineffectual by a later change.

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/commit/e682f9ffe3a469f64ffdccc3ba8165687e2f6e1f#diff-8fe611e95be924c8d64dff4c8791a511



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread slimhase


slimhase wrote: 
> Hi Michael;
> I have the following 'problem':
> When I look at i.e. a podcast list, each podcast has its own unique icon
> / image.
> But when I select one podcast from the list and go to the now playing
> screen (i.e. material skin, but also std skin), it briefly shows the
> unique image, but flips back to the std. Podcast image after 1 second or
> so.
> You can try to see what I mean by including i.e. this Podcast into your
> podcast list and looking at the list (with the unique icons) and then
> select and play one (and then only see the std icon of that podcast):
> https://podcast.wdr.de/radio/hoerspiel.xml
> 
> Maybe related: 
> When I select i.e. Deutschlandfunk Kultur 101.3 (Kultur) from the Radio
> List, I also get only the std. icon of that station, whereas I am pretty
> sure that in earlier builds of LMS, the icon updated to the currently
> playing song releated image (I still get the song info, just not the
> corresponding image)
> 
> As stated, I am pretty sure that this behavior changed during evolvement
> of LMS. (Sorry that I can not pinpoint the build when that happened)
> 
> -> Is there a way to get the 'unique images' back?

Sorry - should have added my system:

Version: 7.9.2 - 1564788734 @ Sat Aug 3 01:49:03 CEST 2019
Betriebssystem: Debian - DE - utf8
Plattformarchitektur: i686-linux
Perl-Version: 5.18.2 - i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int
Audio::Scan: 0.95
IO::Socket::SSL: 1.965
Datenbankversion: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Question / Problem regarding Picture of Radio Station / Podcast

2019-09-09 Thread slimhase


Hi Michael;
I have the following 'problem':
When I look at i.e. a podcast list, each podcast has its own unique icon
/ image.
But when I select one podcast from the list and go to the now playing
screen (i.e. material skin, but also std skin), it briefly shows the
unique image, but flips back to the std. Podcast image after 1 second or
so.
You can try to see what I mean by including i.e. this Podcast into your
podcast list and looking at the list (with the unique icons) and then
select and play one (and then only see the std icon of that podcast):
https://podcast.wdr.de/radio/hoerspiel.xml

Maybe related: 
When I select i.e. Deutschlandfunk Kultur 101.3 (Kultur) from the Radio
List, I also get only the std. icon of that station, whereas I am pretty
sure that in earlier builds of LMS, the icon updated to the currently
playing song releated image (I still get the song info, just not the
corresponding image)

As stated, I am pretty sure that this behavior changed during evolvement
of LMS. (Sorry that I can not pinpoint the build when that happened)

-> Is there a way to get the 'unique images' back?



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