Re: R: obsoleting nextstep?
Henrik Nordstrom wrote: lör 2009-12-05 klockan 00:32 +1300 skrev Amos Jeffries: +1. Last mentioned by that name in a press release 14 years ago. Much more talk and use of Squid on the various Linux flavors built for the PS3. I believe they come under GNU/Linux tags. No idea what newsos was. Searching... Sony M68K workstation in the 80s and early 90s. Doubt anyone have been running Squid on those since early 90s if even then... Gegarding ps3, "otheros" is most often Linux. FreeBSD also exists. Fairly straightforward platform to us (powerpc CPU, and some co-processors we don't touch). Again I highly doubt anyone is running Squid on those, but should share the same properties as IBM Power mainframes running Linux of FreeBSD so.. Yup. Though I do know of a large handful of people actively running Squid on PS3+Linux the recent ICY pressure was mostly from that lot. It's an excellent media gateway for the whole network with HTTP and streaming relays all at one IP, the new large HDD versions even make decent caches. It's not a big issue if we happens to delete one or two oldish platforms too many. If there is someone running on that platform they usually fix it themselves (mostly knowledgeable geeks) and come back to us. So there is no pressing need to preserve old platforms when touching compatibility code. But it's also not worth much to discuss old platforms viability. My proposal regarding these in general is to touch them as little as possible. If encountering such code when shuffling things around for readability then drop them in the shuffle if easier than relocating the code. :) we are pretty much gathering the list and accounting for how old the OS are. It's a done-deal that the old ones will go from 3.2 unless interested users speak up. The ones I and Guido mentioned are all just special-cases in configure.in which is being re-shaped now. NextStep is slightly unusual in having .cc code as well. Amos -- Please be using Current Stable Squid 2.7.STABLE7 or 3.0.STABLE20 Current Beta Squid 3.1.0.15
Re: R: obsoleting nextstep?
lör 2009-12-05 klockan 00:32 +1300 skrev Amos Jeffries: > +1. Last mentioned by that name in a press release 14 years ago. Much > more talk and use of Squid on the various Linux flavors built for the PS3. > I believe they come under GNU/Linux tags. No idea what newsos was. Searching... Sony M68K workstation in the 80s and early 90s. Doubt anyone have been running Squid on those since early 90s if even then... Gegarding ps3, "otheros" is most often Linux. FreeBSD also exists. Fairly straightforward platform to us (powerpc CPU, and some co-processors we don't touch). Again I highly doubt anyone is running Squid on those, but should share the same properties as IBM Power mainframes running Linux of FreeBSD so.. It's not a big issue if we happens to delete one or two oldish platforms too many. If there is someone running on that platform they usually fix it themselves (mostly knowledgeable geeks) and come back to us. So there is no pressing need to preserve old platforms when touching compatibility code. But it's also not worth much to discuss old platforms viability. My proposal regarding these in general is to touch them as little as possible. If encountering such code when shuffling things around for readability then drop them in the shuffle if easier than relocating the code. Regards Henrik
Re: R: obsoleting nextstep?
Guido Serassio wrote: Hi, -Messaggio originale- Da: Kinkie [mailto:gkin...@gmail.com] Inviato: mercoledì 25 novembre 2009 12.50 A: Squid Developers Oggetto: RFC: obsoleting nextstep? Hi all, just like SunOS: NextStep's last version (3.3) was released in 1995, which means 15 years before the expected release date of 3.2 . How about dropping support for it? +1 +1. Does 10 years obsolete sound like a good cutoff maximum age for special OS handling code? And there are some other candidate: - *m88k*, I think the Motorola 88000 systems are no more available ... The originals yes. But there appears to be a fan club maintaining active OS ports as late as last year. The *m88k* pattern also matches some fairly new Motorola-built hardware those people are porting for. -1. - alpha-dec-osf4.*, is the very old DEC OSF 4.x, while latest is HP True64 5.x (alpha-dec-osf5.*) - alpha-dec-osf3 . +0. And to be investigated: - powerpc-ibm-aix4.1.* Going by the wikipedia timeline anything 4.x or lower was released 10yrs+ ago. Not sure about there obsolescence dates though. Likely to be as only 5 years or less. We have active AIX users so this one needs to be careful. +1. On grounds of being very old with a newer supported equivalent. - *-pc-sco3.2* +1 kill. - *-sony-newsos[56]* +1. Last mentioned by that name in a press release 14 years ago. Much more talk and use of Squid on the various Linux flavors built for the PS3. I believe they come under GNU/Linux tags. The alternate tags news([78]|1[58])00 and news86k appear to be supported through NetBSD. Another candidate: *-univel-sysv4.2MP - Original SysV by the looks of it. Amos -- Please be using Current Stable Squid 2.7.STABLE7 or 3.0.STABLE20 Current Beta Squid 3.1.0.15
R: obsoleting nextstep?
Hi, > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Kinkie [mailto:gkin...@gmail.com] > Inviato: mercoledì 25 novembre 2009 12.50 > A: Squid Developers > Oggetto: RFC: obsoleting nextstep? > > Hi all, >just like SunOS: NextStep's last version (3.3) was released in > 1995, which means 15 years before the expected release date of 3.2 . > How about dropping support for it? > +1 And there are some other candidate: - *m88k*, I think the Motorola 88000 systems are no more available ... - alpha-dec-osf4.*, is the very old DEC OSF 4.x, while latest is HP True64 5.x (alpha-dec-osf5.*) - alpha-dec-osf3 . And to be investigated: - powerpc-ibm-aix4.1.* - *-pc-sco3.2* - *-sony-newsos[56]* Regards Guido Guido Serassio Acme Consulting S.r.l. Microsoft Gold Certified Partner VMware Professional Partner Via Lucia Savarino, 110098 - Rivoli (TO) - ITALY Tel. : +39.011.9530135 Fax. : +39.011.9781115 Email: guido.seras...@acmeconsulting.it WWW: http://www.acmeconsulting.it
