Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-08 Thread Chris Bennett
Hi Jason, If you think the external acl method is too expensive to run, how do you expect to feed this NIDS data back into squid? I think you'd find you'd need an external acl check to do that bit anyway :-) I should have been clearer - my use of the term feedback loop was meant to imply that

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-07 Thread Jason Haar
On 08/01/15 18:41, Chris Bennett wrote: Interesting thread so far. Has anyone thought of using Bro-IDS as a feedback loop for some of this advanced logic for bypassing bumping? The external acl method mentioned earlier probably out-does using some NIDS feedback loop. In my testing it causes

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-06 Thread Jason Haar
On 06/01/15 05:28, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: In 3.5 there will be present a new feature which called peek and splice that can give an interface to squid and the admin which will allow the admin to know couple things about the connection from squid and specifically first the client TLS request.

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sounds good, but server world is not end on Linux. ;) Now exists another *NIX systems. And will exists further. Also. I have an idea, gents. Do we can easy and quickly detect SSL Pinned destinations? And remember it, for example, in database?

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread James Harper
On 01/01/15 00:11, James Harper wrote: The helper connects to the IP:port and tries to obtain the certificate, and then caches the result (in an sqlite database). If it can't do so within a fairly short time it returns failure (but keeps trying a bit longer and caches it for next time).

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Marcus Kool
Much of the discussion so far has been about bumping traffic on port 443, bumping SSL-encapsulated HTTP traffic and not bumping (allowing) other traffic. Since port 443 is used for many protocols, it is in many cases dangerous to allow non-bumpable traffic: SSH tunnels using port 443 are common,

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Marcus Kool
On 01/05/2015 11:11 AM, Yuri Voinov wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And also: don't forget about bogus homebrew internet-bankings. Which is uses bogus SSL-certs with bogus GOST realisations. And bogus Java-based clients. All of them also uses 443 port. And often HTTPS

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think, non-HTTP/HTTPS security issues is never ever Squid function. Squid is not all-in-one-security-solution. It's only HTTP proxy. For others security breches (i.e SSH tunnels, various browser tunnel-related plugins, Tor etc., ) we have

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Douglas Davenport
Marcus, not to distract from the very important main points being discussed here but I have to question your last line: i.e. there is not yet an interface for this type of traffic inspection. Is that not the whole point of Squid's ICAP interface and HTTPS bumping? Or do you just mean that

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wait a minute, gents. What about ICAP? What I skipped? 05.01.2015 20:38, Douglas Davenport пишет: Marcus, not to distract from the very important main points being discussed here but I have to question your last line: i.e. there is not yet an

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/05/2015 05:18 PM, Yuri Voinov wrote: We haven't filtering non_HTTP over port-443. Just recognize and pass. So let's separate security which is one of the goals of squid and which some like and other don't. For now squid 3.4 is stable and 3.5

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Agreed. I'm expert on shell, not Perl/Python. :) But will try to make some useful with it. 05.01.2015 22:28, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: On 01/05/2015 05:18 PM, Yuri Voinov wrote: We haven't filtering non_HTTP over port-443. Just recognize and

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Marcus Kool
On 01/05/2015 12:38 PM, Douglas Davenport wrote: Marcus, not to distract from the very important main points being discussed here but I have to question your last line: i.e. there is not yet an interface for this type of traffic inspection. Is that not the whole point of Squid's ICAP

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-05 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We haven't filtering non_HTTP over port-443. Just recognize and pass. 05.01.2015 21:15, Marcus Kool пишет: On 01/05/2015 12:38 PM, Douglas Davenport wrote: Marcus, not to distract from the very important main points being discussed here but I

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-04 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To return to Earth: I think, a good idea is built-in (ma be, in ssl_crtd?) functionality to check 443 port connection for Is an HTTPS inside? and if no, do not bump by default. This is so simple and fast, is it? And we can have some config option

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-04 Thread Douglas Davenport
Seems to me it would be more useful as an external ACL so that a decision could be made based on other factors eg src or dstdomain whether to deny or allow the un-bumpable connection. On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Yuri Voinov yvoi...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-04 Thread Jason Haar
On 05/01/15 15:44, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: A squid helper is nice but... a NFQUEUE helper that can verify if to FORWARD or BUMP the connection would be a better suited solution to my opinion. Not sure if you're ignoring the ssl-peek work, but squid still needs to be able to peek in order for

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-04 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey Thread(Jason,Yuri,Douglas...), There are couple aspects about the ssl and connections in general and as we talk about ssl port I first would like to put couple things on the table. * Squid is a http caching proxy and there for every feature

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-03 Thread Jason Haar
On 01/01/15 00:11, James Harper wrote: The helper connects to the IP:port and tries to obtain the certificate, and then caches the result (in an sqlite database). If it can't do so within a fairly short time it returns failure (but keeps trying a bit longer and caches it for next time).

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-03 Thread Yuri Voinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Term HTTPS often uses as Any connect over 443 port 03.01.2015 13:59, Jason Haar пишет: On 01/01/15 00:11, James Harper wrote: The helper connects to the IP:port and tries to obtain the certificate, and then caches the result (in an sqlite

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-01 Thread Amos Jeffries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/01/2015 1:21 p.m., Eliezer Croitoru wrote: Hey Yuri, You would want to avoid sqlite as far as you can due to it's Whole DB file LOCK nature. Indeed. My experience with SQLite has been that it is vastly slower than other DB options even a

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2015-01-01 Thread Amos Jeffries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/01/2015 4:33 p.m., Amos Jeffries wrote: Yuri, regarding Squid packaged helpers... Opps sorry that should have been directed at James or anyone wishing to bundle his helper with Squid. Distribution of any code within the Squid package

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-31 Thread James Harper
Probably non-HTTPS protocol being used. As bumping gets more popular we are hearing about a number of services abusing port 443 for non-HTTPS protocols on the false assumption that the TLS layer goes all the way to the origin server without inspection. That has never been a true

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Amos Jeffries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/12/2014 2:12 a.m., Yuri Voinov wrote: Hi gents, I found strange issue. Squid 3.4.10. Intercept. HTTPS bumping. All works fine. All configs correct. Whenever all web https sites works perfectly - especially in Chrome, most cloud

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Rafael Akchurin
Subject: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi gents, I found strange issue. Squid 3.4.10. Intercept. HTTPS bumping. All works fine. All configs correct. Whenever all web https sites works perfectly

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Yuri Voinov
on behalf of Yuri Voinov yvoi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:12 PM To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect Hi gents, I found strange issue. Squid 3.4.10. Intercept. HTTPS bumping. All

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Rafael Akchurin
-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect ​Only exclusion from SSL Bump as far as I know. raf From: Yuri Voinov yvoi...@gmail.commailto:yvoi...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:19 PM To: Rafael Akchurin; squid-users

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Yuri Voinov
:*squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] *On Behalf Of *Rafael Akchurin *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:23 PM *To:* Yuri Voinov; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org *Subject:* Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect ​Only

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Yuri Voinov
; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org *Subject:* Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect Already found this lonely right post ;) I have Google-Fu too :) And it longer than you :) Anyway, all of these issues solved. I have snoop (not Windoze wireshark

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread Rafael Akchurin
Perfect thanks a lot!!! Raf :) From: Yuri Voinov [mailto:yvoi...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 9:23 PM To: Rafael Akchurin; squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE

Re: [squid-users] Squid 3 SSL bump: Google drive application could not connect

2014-12-30 Thread shawn wilson
On Dec 30, 2014 7:04 PM, Amos Jeffries squ...@treenet.co.nz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 31/12/2014 6:30 a.m., shawn wilson wrote: On Dec 30, 2014 8:57 AM, Amos Jeffries wrote: As bumping gets more popular we are hearing about a number of services