Re: [squid-users] squid SMP notes
On 12/7/2016 13:43, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > May I ask about the purpose of the proxy? Caching or ACL? > > Eliezer > > > http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/ > Linux System Administrator > Mobile: +972-5-28704261 > Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il > > > From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] On > Behalf Of senor > Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:11 AM > To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org > Subject: [squid-users] squid SMP notes > > It is unclear to me how the more recent 'multiple instance' configuration > compares with that of 'SMP Scaling'. > > Is there a short and sweet description of pros and cons or is the multiple > instance simply the new way? The wiki pages vary in detail of implementation > but don't directly state any advantage of one over the other. Further > confusing me is my need to consider SSL Interception, ssl_crtd helpers and > ecap. To be clear, I'm not looking for configuration help. Just some advice > on which to pursue so I'm not rethinking the whole thing 6 months down the > road. > Thank you for any help. > > A combination of ACL, eCAP and caching is my goal. At the moment I'm trying to make sense out of the statistics so I have metrics to guide me. So now it's just a matter of comparing the various possible configurations. Is there a tool or option to log statistics in machine readable format? SNMP doesn't expose as much as I'd like and cachemgr output needs to be gawked down to something like a csv file but still account for kids? Also, is ssl_crtd disk DB ok to share among workers or do they each need their own? I just realized I forgot to give the workers their own DB but it seems to be working. Although not under load. I really appreciate the help. ___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
Re: [squid-users] squid SMP notes
May I ask about the purpose of the proxy? Caching or ACL? Eliezer http://ngtech.co.il/lmgtfy/ Linux System Administrator Mobile: +972-5-28704261 Email: elie...@ngtech.co.il From: squid-users [mailto:squid-users-boun...@lists.squid-cache.org] On Behalf Of senor Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:11 AM To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org Subject: [squid-users] squid SMP notes It is unclear to me how the more recent 'multiple instance' configuration compares with that of 'SMP Scaling'. Is there a short and sweet description of pros and cons or is the multiple instance simply the new way? The wiki pages vary in detail of implementation but don't directly state any advantage of one over the other. Further confusing me is my need to consider SSL Interception, ssl_crtd helpers and ecap. To be clear, I'm not looking for configuration help. Just some advice on which to pursue so I'm not rethinking the whole thing 6 months down the road. Thank you for any help. ___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
Re: [squid-users] squid SMP notes
On 11/30/2016 11:10 PM, senor wrote: > It is unclear to me how the more recent 'multiple instance' > configuration compares with that of 'SMP Scaling'. > > Is there a short and sweet description of pros and cons or is the > multiple instance simply the new way? The wiki pages vary in detail of > implementation but don't directly state any advantage of one over the > other. Further confusing me is my need to consider SSL Interception, > ssl_crtd helpers and ecap. To be clear, I'm not looking for > configuration help. Just some advice on which to pursue so I'm not > rethinking the whole thing 6 months down the road. SMP Squid is usually the correct way to deploy a single Squid on a single beefy machine. "Multiple instances" is the correct way to host multiple/different/independent Squids on a single machine. In some cases, multiple Squid instances include SMP Squid instances! The two features are essentially orthogonal. Multiple Squid instances are also used (and abused) as a workaround for various current SMP Squid limitations, which is where the confusion is often coming from. If you think of a high-level description of what you want to do, treating Squid as a black box "proxy", then you should be able to classify your particular use case as a "ideally, a single Squid" or "multiple/different/independent Squids" and go from there. [ If you know Apache web server (httpd), then temporary consider thinking of Squid as an Apache web server configured to proxy traffic. Does your environment require multiple Apache servers or a single one? Similar to Squid, Apache supports SMP scale, but that is a _secondary_ question. ] Some of the current SMP Squid limitations are important and do require either workarounds or development, but "multiple instance" propaganda often comes from folks who do not understand SMP or have non-technical phobias/biases against it. Often, those folks are far more vocal than those who understand what is going on, so it is easy to get the wrong impression that "multiple instances" is "more recent" or "the future". SMP Squid is gradually getting better, with fewer exceptions that require workarounds, including workarounds that involve multiple instances. Multiple instances support is also getting better. Again, each orthogonal feature targets a completely different problem area. The above summary was true for several years, and I expect it to remain accurate for the foreseeable future. Sorry, I cannot provide detailed answers to your other good questions right now. HTH, Alex. ___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
[squid-users] squid SMP notes
It is unclear to me how the more recent 'multiple instance' configuration compares with that of 'SMP Scaling'. Is there a short and sweet description of pros and cons or is the multiple instance simply the new way? The wiki pages vary in detail of implementation but don't directly state any advantage of one over the other. Further confusing me is my need to consider SSL Interception, ssl_crtd helpers and ecap. To be clear, I'm not looking for configuration help. Just some advice on which to pursue so I'm not rethinking the whole thing 6 months down the road. Thank you for any help. ___ squid-users mailing list squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users
