[Standards] [Fwd: [Council] meeting this evening]

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
FYI, all are welcome as always. This is at 20:00 UTC (which may be morning, afternoon, or evening depending on where you are ;-). Original Message Subject: [Council] meeting this evening Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:08:32 + From: Kevin Smith ke...@kismith.co.uk Reply-To:

[Standards] Fwd: Minutes 2009-01-21

2009-01-21 Thread Kevin Smith
FYI: -- Forwarded message -- From: Kevin Smith Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:51 PM Subject: Minutes 2009-01-21 To: XMPP Council Date: 2009-01-21 Time: 20:00 UTC Place: xmpp:coun...@conference.jabber.org Log:

[Standards] ACTIVE: XEP-0245 (The /me Command)

2009-01-21 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 1.0 of XEP-0245 (The /me Command) has been released. Abstract: This specification defines recommended handling of the /me command in XMPP instant messaging clients. Changelog: Per a vote of the XMPP Council, advanced specification to Active and changed type from Historical to

[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0232 (Software Information)

2009-01-21 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0232 (Software Information). Abstract: This document specifies an extended data format whereby XMPP service discovery responses can include detailed information about the software application that powers a given XMPP entity for

[Standards] NEW: XEP-0259 (Message Mine-ing)

2009-01-21 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
Version 0.1 of XEP-0259 (Message Mine-ing) has been released. Abstract: In servers that deliver messages intended for the bare JID to all resources, the resource that claims a conversation notifies all of the other resources of that claim. Changelog: Initial published version. (psa) Diff:

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0232 (Software Information)

2009-01-21 Thread Remko Tronçon
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0232 (Software Information). Can someone remind me why we use data forms for this, and not real elements? I never really understood why we have data forms in protocols that have nothing to do with displaying of data. Why not

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0232 (Software Information)

2009-01-21 Thread Remko Tronçon
Can someone remind me why we use data forms for this, and not real elements? I guess it has something to do with how disco information is to be extended (looking at XEP-115). Anyway, I guess we don't have a choice here, but that doesn't mean I like it :-) cheers, Remko

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0232 (Software Information)

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Remko Tronçon wrote: Can someone remind me why we use data forms for this, and not real elements? I guess it has something to do with how disco information is to be extended (looking at XEP-115). Anyway, I guess we don't have a choice here, but that doesn't mean I like it :-) Right, it's

Re: [Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0232 (Software Information)

2009-01-21 Thread Olivier Goffart
Le mercredi 21 janvier 2009, XMPP Extensions Editor a écrit : This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0232 (Software Information). Abstract: This document specifies an extended data format whereby XMPP service discovery responses can include detailed information

Re: [Standards] Fwd: Minutes 2009-01-21

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Jan 21 20:51:55 2009, Kevin Smith wrote: 4) Message Mine-ing What do we do? Several objections, but agreement that a spec to address these problems is needed, and rough agreement to publish both this and an upcoming alternative to experimental and to compare them both once they're

Re: [Standards] Fwd: Minutes 2009-01-21

2009-01-21 Thread Remko Tronçon
Attached is part of a solution to the (largely unstated) problem. Apart from the spelling mistakes, I like it so far. 1) A refinement on the remote control ad-hoc commands to send only some pending messages. (Not really essential, but might be nice). Actually, a real protocol (based on