Re: [Standards] XEP-0234 Jingle File Transfer 0.16

2015-06-28 Thread Jefry Lagrange
I vote for not moving towards supporting :4. There isn't a compelling reason to do it. So it is better to wait until (or if) there features are supported in the next version or in some other XEP. On 20/06/15 16:13, Daniel Gultsch wrote: 2015-06-20 21:59 GMT+02:00 Yann Leboulanger

[Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi current file transfer techniques in XMPP all share the same downside. They are P2P and thus don't work with Carbons and MUCs. The synchronous nature of P2P protocols also doesn't play nicely with MAM. Uploading files manually to an HTTP server and sharing the link has been an workaround for

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
2015-06-28 20:36 GMT+02:00 Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de: Jingle File Transfer might be rarely implemented currently, because it is still in Experimental status. But a new (experimental) protocol (yet another one for file transfer), which will probably evolve as well, would

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Dave Cridland
https://xkcd.com/927/ On 28 June 2015 at 21:43, Daniel Gultsch dan...@gultsch.de wrote: 2015-06-28 20:36 GMT+02:00 Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de: Jingle File Transfer might be rarely implemented currently, because it is still in Experimental status. But a new (experimental)

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Christian Schudt
Hi, Letting the component act as a Jingle File Transfer receiver was my original idea as well. However if you try to find any jingle ft implementations you'll see that there basically aren't any. (To my knowledge there is Gajim, Conversations and Swift (beta) and Swift is currently

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Christian Schudt
Hi, I agree that XMPP is lacking such a specification („MUC File Transfer“, „Offline File Transfer“). Maybe it’s even better, if the client and server could negotiate the transport method first, so that the client could choose between „HTTP Upload“, SOCKS 5 Upload (XEP-0065)“ or „In-Band

Re: [Standards] Request HTTP upload slots over XMPP

2015-06-28 Thread Daniel Gultsch
Hi I've been developing this idea since almost a year now. Never got around to actually write some code until now. 2015-06-28 19:16 GMT+02:00 Christian Schudt christian.sch...@gmx.de: Hi, I agree that XMPP is lacking such a specification („MUC File Transfer“, „Offline File Transfer“).