Re: [Standards] Persisting Message Errors (XEP-0280, XEP-0313, XEP-0160)

2019-09-18 Thread JC Brand
On Thu, Aug 01, 2019 at 01:08:49PM +0200, Georg Lukas wrote: > Hi, > > error type stanzas are currently ephemeral, and not taken seriously by > many (client) developers. As one step in increasing the (perceived) > reliability of XMPP messaging, I'd like to make message errors > persistent, so

Re: [Standards] MIX: Roster entries -> private PEP node (or something)

2019-09-18 Thread Steve Kille
> -Original Message- > From: Standards On Behalf Of Daniel Gultsch > Sent: 17 June 2019 17:21 > To: XMPP Standards > Subject: [Standards] MIX: Roster entries -> private PEP node (or something) > > Hi, > > at the last summit we sort of came to the conclusion that we want to get rid >

Re: [Standards] MIX: Join protocol flow

2019-09-18 Thread Steve Kille
Jonas has clarified that the id/jid issue is not present between current version of 405 and 369. There is a version issue. I propose to update 405 to reference core:1 and to use pam:2 (so there is no confusion caused by current 405). I don't think that duplicating 369 spec in 405 is a

Re: [Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-09-17

2019-09-18 Thread Tedd Sterr
Addendum. 2019-09-11 (expiring 2019-08-25) Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Fastening - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fasten.html Dave: +1 (just to get progress) Georg: +1 (let's make some progress) Jonas: +1 (we can develop this further in Experimental) Kev: +0 Link: +1 (don't mind a new

[Standards] Council Voting Summary 2019-09-17

2019-09-18 Thread Tedd Sterr
2019-08-07 (expired 2019-08-21) FAILED (-0:4:+1) PR #806 - XEP-0060: Add pubsub#public in Publish-Subscribe features - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/806 VETOED (-1:3:+1) PR #808 - XEP-0045: Add Tags configuration and metadata - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/808 PASSED (-0:1:+4) PR #805 -

Re: [Standards] MIX: Join protocol flow

2019-09-18 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Dienstag, 17. September 2019 18:07:28 CEST Steve Kille wrote: > Jonas, > > I'm thinking about this. > > You note: "2. XEP-0369 uses the @id attribute and the @jid attribute on > ." > > I can only see use of can you point out where @id is used? Sorry, that wasn’t clear. I was referring

[Standards] Council Minutes 2019-09-11

2019-09-18 Thread Tedd Sterr
http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2019-09-11?p=h#2019-09-11-8afc1ce1dd4dff71 1) Roll Call Present: Jonas, Link, Dave, Kev, Georg 2) Agenda Bashing Dave didn't notice it was Wednesday and is sorry. Kev nonchalantly mentions Fastening; Dave sees one announced proto-XEP and two PRs. 3a) Proposed XMPP