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Re: [Standards] [Members] Board & Council elections

-- Originalnachricht -- Von: "Alexander Gnauck" An: "XSF Members" ; "XMPP Standards list" ; "j...@xmpp.org" Gesendet: 27.10.2021 13:55:51 Betreff: Re: [Members] Board & Council elections Just a reminder that we are coming closer to the deadline

Re: [Standards] [Members] Board & Council elections

-- Originalnachricht -- Von: "Alexander Gnauck" An: "XSF Members" ; "XMPP Standards list" ; "j...@xmpp.org" Gesendet: 20.09.2021 19:23:37 Betreff: [Members] Board & Council elections Hello, another year went by and we have to elect the 2021-2022 XSF Boar

[Standards] Board & Council elections

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Re: [Standards] [Members] Board & Council elections

final reminder that the Board & Council application period closes by the end of this week. Alex -- Original Message -- From: "Alexander Gnauck" To: "XSF Members" Cc: "Jabber Developer" ; "XMPP Standards list" Sent: 29.10.2020 09:

[Standards] Board & Council elections

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q4 2020

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q1 2020

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2019

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2019

/Membership_Applications_Q2_2019 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops Apply now!!! Thanks, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna

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Re: [Standards] [Members] XSF Board and Council applications due November 4

final reminder... Alex -- Original Message -- From: "Alexander Gnauck" To: "XSF Members" ; "XSF Members" Cc: "XMPP Standards" Sent: 02.11.2018 12:51:27 Subject: Re: [Members] XSF Board and Council applications due November 4 thanks for th

Re: [Standards] [Members] XSF Board and Council applications due November 4

thanks for the reminder Ralph. Alex -- Original Message -- From: "Ralph Meijer" To: "XSF Members" Cc: "XMPP Standards" Sent: 01.11.2018 16:05:22 Subject: [Members] XSF Board and Council applications due November 4 Hi all, As every year, we have elections coming up for the Board of

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q4 2018

/Membership_Applications_Q4_2018 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops Apply now!!! Thanks, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna...@jabber.org___

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2018

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2018

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q1 2018

/Membership_Applications_Q1_2018 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops Apply now!!! Thanks, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna...@jabber.org___

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2017

/Membership_Applications_Q3_2017 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops The application period end on August 27th, 2017, so apply now!!! Thanks, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna

Re: [Standards] [Members] XSF membership application period Q2 2017

account please contact me directly per EMail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks, Alex -- Original Message -- From: "Alexander Gnauck" <gna...@gmail.com> To: "Jabber Developer" <j...@jabber.org>; "XMPP Standards list" <standards@xmpp

Re: [Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2017

Because the XSF Wiki is down right now this application period gets extended and the meeting on May 2nd canceled. I will send an update as soon as the Wiki is up again and we have a new schedule. Thanks, Alex -- Original Message -- From: "Alexander Gnauck" <gna

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2017

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q1 2017

/Membership_Applications_Q1_2017 If you don't have a wiki account, send your full name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops The application period ends January 15th, 2017. Apply now!!! Thanks, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna

[Standards] XSF Membership Application period Q4 2016

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2016

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2016

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q1 2016

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q4 2015

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2015

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[Standards] Membership Application period Q2 2015

Wójcik * Florian Zeitz * Martin Hewitt feel free to recruit new XSF members and push the message to other channels. Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna...@jabber.org

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q4 2014

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3 2014

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2 2014

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Re: [Standards] XMPP meetup July 27 in Berlin?

Anyone interested? absolutely!!! Alex

[Standards] SASL GSSAPI kerberos principal

currently I have some issues with the kerberos principal in GSSAPI SASL authentication. What is the correct way for building the kerberos principal for authentication in the client? 1) xmpp/xmppdomain@realm 2) xmpp/hostname@realm with hostname I mean the host we are connecting the TCP socket

[Standards] membership application period Q2 2012

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[Standards] Membership application period Q1/2012

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[Standards] Membership application period Q4/2011

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[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2/2010

2010 at 23:59h UTC. So apply today! Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck xmpp:gna...@jabber.org

[Standards] XEP-0206 and namespaces

XEP-0206 sais: quote If the BOSH body/ wrapper is not empty, then it SHOULD contain ... One or more complete message/, presence/, and/or iq/ elements qualified by the 'jabber:client' namespace. /quote then there is a note which sais: quote Many existing XMPP-specific implementations of BOSH

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q4/2009

a page about yourself on the wiki. If you don't have a wiki account, send your name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops The application period ends on 28th October 2009 23:59h UTC, so apply today! Regards, Alex -- Alexander

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q3/2009

about yourself on the wiki. If you don't have a wiki account, send your name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops The application period ends on 19th July 2009 23:59h UTC, so apply today! Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck

[Standards] XSF membership application period Q2/2009

a page about yourself on the wiki. If you don't have a wiki account, send your name, preferred nickname and email address to me or one of the other Sysops: http://wiki.xmpp.org/index.php/Sysops The application period ends on 22th April 2009 23:59h UTC, so apply today! Regards, Alex -- Alexander

[Standards] Anonymous users in Muc

anonymous users because of security reasons. I think we need a way to discover if a user is anonymous or not. Or require the server to add some extra stamped info to the presence of anonymous users. Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck http://www.ag-software.de xmpp:gna...@jabber.org

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Muc invite

Peter Saint-Andre wrote: That's wrong. Will fix. http://svn.xmpp.org:18080/browse/XMPP/trunk/extensions/xep-0045.xml?r1=2830r2=2869 Thanks Alex

Re: [Standards] XEP-0045 Muc invite

no ideas? Alexander Gnauck wrote: Example 208 shows the password/ as child of invite/ message to='darkc...@chat.shakespeare.lit' x xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user' invite to='hec...@shakespeare.lit' passwordcauldronburn/password /invite /x /message

Re: [Standards] IBB revisions

XEPs and show this use cases in the IBB XEP. But there is already a small paragraph about non file transfer related use cases. Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck http://www.ag-software.de xmpp:gna...@jabber.org

Re: [Standards] IBB revisions

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: Feedback is welcome, especially from Justin. :) I will use IBB in a project for sending big data objects. So not files directly. Because it well designed for splitting any data in chunks. So we could add other examples and use cases than only file transfer to it.

[Standards] XEP-0045 Muc invite

='to' type='xs:string' use='optional'/ /xs:complexType /xs:element Regards, Alex -- Alexander Gnauck http://www.ag-software.de xmpp:gna...@jabber.org

[Standards] XSF membership application period

The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) is currently holding its quarterly membership application period: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_October_2008 Applications are encouraged from developers and others who are actively involved in the Jabber/XMPP community. To apply, create a

Re: [Standards] stream restarts

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: If there are no objections to this idea, I'll write up a little XEP or two about this. +1 for getting rid of the stream restart. I started this discussion several times in the past and never understood why we need them with TLS and SASL ;-) * this saves us some

Re: [Standards] compare SIMPLE and XMPP

Ralph J.Mayer schrieb: I had to learn these days that the presence server that comes with the Cisco Unified Communications Manager uses SIMPLE and not XMPP like I had hoped. :( Googeling for a comparison leads to http://www.jabber.org/protocol/xmpp-simple.shtml Looks like this page does not

Re: [Standards] Council on Stanza Repeaters without Multicast

Pedro Melo schrieb: Yes, that was not the point of this, it was only to show that this problem is important now, and not when we have 100k subscribers in the future. The future is here now. Thank Pedro for pointing this out. I was looking at the pubsub nodes on jabber.org which is one of the

Re: [Standards] switching between BOSH and TCP?

Justin Karneges schrieb: On Friday 28 March 2008 10:46 am, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I've been chatting with someone off-list about mobile optimizations and he suggested that we might want to build in the ability to seamlessly switch between BOSH and TCP. For example you would use the TCP

Re: [Standards] alternate SRV records?

Pedro Melo schrieb: XMPP requires TLS. If you don't want to use TLS, you are using Jabber, not XMPP. And then you should look for I don't agree here. You should use TLS whenever possible, but its not required. Many XMPP software for embedded and mobile devices does not support TLS because

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Roster Versioning

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: Here is revised text: The value of the 'version' attribute SHOULD be a non-negative integer representing a strictly increasing sequence number that is increased with any change to the roster (whether or not the client supports this extension) but MAY be a

Re: [Standards] mobile optimizations

Dave Cridland wrote: 2) Client says I have the roster as of this point in time. Server says Here's all the changes since then.. This is obviously the best option in terms of efficiency, but it, too, has problems. The key issue is that roster entries won't die - instead, they'll be maintained

Re: [Standards] mobile optimizations

Fabio Forno wrote: I like this one, since it always has a backup when no sinchronization is needed. Moreover the server can store only a window of changes, and send the whole roster if the last known by the client is too old +1, I don't think we want to keep all roster revisions from the

Re: [Standards] mobile optimizations

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: Hi Alex, that's helpful information. We have compression enabled at the jabber.org service so perhaps you could get some new numbers with your account there. :) yes I can do that. The code must be still somewhere on my hd. I do a search ;-) Alex

Re: [Standards] [jdev] Google Androïd SDK not XM PP compliant ?

Fabio Forno schrieb: ... - compression is not as bad as I thought and if time to market is essential that's the only viable solution see also my comments in the jdev thread, I think we should all hop one one thread ;-) http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2008-February/026157.html I have

Re: [Standards] mobile optimizations

Fabio Forno schrieb: ... Anyway I can anticipate that with zlib the size of a whole message stanza is often shorter or minimally longer than the uncompressed body alone: do we really need better performance? I posted some stats in another thread before:

Re: [Standards] RFC 3921bis Managing Presence Subscriptions based on full JIDs serious issue

Tomasz Sterna schrieb: I found e serious issue with FC 3921bis Managing Presence Subscriptions. [...] I would disallow them. I see no sense behind full jid subscription. This would even confuse people. We said before that resources should be unpredictable. I do run some services on server

Re: [Standards] XEP-0115 redux

Dave Cridland schrieb: Point taken. So let's make it unique for any given iq:version response. In fact, on this basis, we can ditch v again, and make node be a URI unique to the client, its version, and platform. Perhaps http://psi-im.org/0.11/linux-2.6 or even

Re: [Standards] XEP-0115 redux

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: I'm fine with either a best-practices form of iq:version queries, or just putting the n and v attributes (and optionally 'os') into caps. Since we now have a XEP-0115 draft with n/v/os, let's go with that unless anyone has a real major objection? We'll run it up

Re: [Standards] XEP-0115 redux

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: This puts things in a bit of a different light. I might change presence 8+ times during a presence session, but I'd bet that most users don't do change presence that often. Therefore it seems to me that plunking n+os+v in caps is not evil from the perspective of

Re: [Standards] XEP-0115 redux

Joe Hildebrand schrieb: 3b. If we specify an MTI algorithm, do we specify MD5 or SHA-1 or something else? Frankly, I don't care. MD5 is smaller, and probably more secure, but has marketing issues, particularly with a vocal minority on this list. We all have SHA-1 implementations for other

Re: [Standards] XEP-0115 redux

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: The requesting entity MUST check the identities and supported features against the 'ver' value by calculating the hash as described under Generation of the ver Attribute and making sure that the values match. sorry missed this paragraph. Now i see why it

[Standards] IBB XEP-0047

example 4 in XEP-0047 is using amp. I think it shold be: rule condition='deliver' value='stored' action='error'/ instead of: rule condition='deliver-at' value='stored' action='error'/ because only the deliver condition is defined in XEP-0079 amp. Regards, Alex

Re: [Standards] s2s blocking of abusive users

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb: If there is interest in such an extension, I will write up a spec for it. yes there is, +1 from me. Alex

Re: [Standards] s2s blocking of abusive users

Tomasz Sterna schrieb: Oh. I realized that I'm being to sparse. I meant, stopping reading for a while. If you allow 10kb per second, you just read no more than 10kb in a second and pause. Then after one second read another no more than 10kb. The TCP buffering, timeouts and retransmission will

[Standards] BOSH comments

Hello, i recently finished my BOSH implementation and stumbled over 2 problems. Most implementations send the stream features only once at the beginning. Because of the missing stream headersin BOSH they send no stream features after SASL authentication and other stream resets. This caused me

Re: [Standards] XEP licensing

Dave Cridland schrieb: It's a principle of the thing with DFSG. I can understand their point of view, but I don't think it's our job to adhere to their requirements, either. We need to ensure that our licensing is correct for what we require. If we can accomodate Debian, great, but I suspect

Re: [Standards] NEW: XEP-0225 (Component Connections)

Hello, i am for jabber:client because i don't like the namespace switching in software. But this does not help that much if we stick with other namespaces on s2s connections forever. Alex

Re: [Standards] [CDATA[ in XMPP

Ralph Meijer schrieb: I am curious which software this holds for. Most XMPP implementations are based on expat, as far as I know. Sure they might have their own DOM's (my Twisted XMPP stuff does), but that is irrelevant for parsing. There is many software which is using expat, but there is

Re: [Standards] [CDATA[ in XMPP

Sergei Golovan schrieb: I wasn't clear enough here. I mean no sowtware generated XML with CDATA. I can't count for all programs in the world, but all server implementations use plain XML escaping. i think this is solved now. CDATA is in the RFC3923 which means the latest ejabberd commit is RFC

[Standards] Re: XEP-0045: roomnick case

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I think if we want to solve this in a compatible way we should just let the muc server block multiple nicks in the same room with only differ in case (rephrase that in Stringprep section numbers, etc) If a server works that way (and maybe announces with a status code