I have longing for this! Love the initiative of the IoT SIG, looking
forward on the future discussions.

Put me on the working list.


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2016-10-12 11:11 GMT+02:00 Peter Waher <peterwa...@hotmail.com>:

> Hello
>
>
>
> > I propose that we form a special interest group (see XEP-0002) regarding
> the
>
> > use of XMPP in the Internet of Things:
>
> >
>
> > http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/iot-sig.html
>
>
>
> The IoT SIG sounds like an excellent idea.
>
>
>
> > Firstly, it'd be useful to gather a sense of the current state of
>
> > play. It seems to me we have a number of IoT-related XEPs and
>
> > proposals - due to a huge amount of effort by Peter Waher - but its
>
> > not clear to me which of these have any traction. It would be great if
>
> > people working on IoT (and using XMPP) could say which of these are
>
> > generally working well for them.
>
>
>
> It might be of interest to you, to know that the IEEE is working to form a
> new Group on ”IoT Harmonization”, in which XMPP plays an important role.
> XEPs under consideration at this forming stage are 0323, 0324, 0325, 0326 &
> 0347. You can review the slides from a presentation I held yesterday on
> this topic:
>
>
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/peterwaher/iot-harmonization-using-xmpp
>
>
>
> Let me know if anybody working with XMPP & IoT is interested to
> participate in such a working group. The goal is to form the group in
> January and have a first draft ready for balloting by the end of 2017.
>
>
>
> > Secondly, I'm of the opinion - and opinions can always be changed -
>
> > that the existing IoT proposals are something of an isolated suite.
>
>
>
> Yes and no. They have been abstracted. Some are more IoT related
> (323,324,325,326,347), others are more generic. EXI was written as reaction
> to the observation that XMPP is too verbose for some IoT applications and
> some networks. The Event logging (0337) is a generic infrastructural need,
> but it arose from logging in distributed IoT systems where many clients
> lack displays. HTTP over XMPP (0332) arose from the need to define web
> queries among distributed sets of sensors. Dynamic Forms (0336) as a way to
> create richer data forms, but is used in IoT since data values might take
> some time to fetch, and fields need to be able to be updated dynamically.
> Form signatures (0348) is needed to automate the creation of XMPP accounts,
> in a secure manner. Others that wait approval are also written to be
> generic, such as the QoS proposal – which originated as a need from IoT but
> has generic value. Event subscription is more directly IoT-related.
>
>
>
> > Looking at the IETF MILE Working Group, we have the XMPP-Grid proposal
>
> > which seems a similar shape to the IoT proposal, and similarly uses
>
> > little of the existing mechanics we have. For example, it provides a
>
> > publish-subscribe facility, a registration facility, and so on. The
>
> > payloads are different, but the essential goals the same. I cannot see
>
> > what would drive a difference in the containing protocol between (say)
>
> > counts of stanzas in an XMPP server, temperature readings in a sensor,
>
> > and sightings of a Cyber Observable pattern.
>
>
>
> There’s already a publish-subscribe based IoT solution defined by the
> UPnP, and published by the OIC/OCF:
>
> https://openconnectivity.org/resources/specifications/upnp/iot
>
>
>
> To create another one for this purpose seems unnecessary.
>
>
>
> While publish/subscribe might work well for several use cases, it’s not
> sufficient to cover all use cases, not even the most important use cases.
> It’s sole purpose is to make mass-dissemination more efficient. The IoT
> XEPs however, allow for a more general architecture, which is not limited
> to a single communication pattern, but allows for most patterns used today,
> depending on what is to be accomplished. See my presentation above for more
> information.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peter Waher
>
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