Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-15 Thread Evgeny Khramtsov
Tue, 07 Nov 2017 20:34:04 - Jonas Wielicki (XSF Editor) wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Message Markup > Abstract: > This specification provides an alternative to XHTML-IM with rigid > separation of content and

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Dienstag, 7. November 2017 20:34:04 CET Jonas Wielicki wrote: > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/markup.html It has been brought up in xsf@ that this XEP seems contradictory, because it states in the Requirements: > Textual data and markup metadata MUST be separated strictly. But also

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread Goffi
Le mercredi 8 novembre 2017, 10:11:52 CET Jonas Wielicki a écrit : > On Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 08:29:49 CET Georg Lukas wrote: > > * Goffi [2017-11-08 08:17]: > > > about the stars in the list items, it's not really nice to keep them. > > > > > > It would be good to have an

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread JC Brand
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:14:43AM +0100, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > On Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 08:44:16 CET Remko Tronçon wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 7 November 2017 at 21:34, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread Dave Cridland
On 8 November 2017 at 09:14, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > On Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 08:44:16 CET Remko Tronçon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 7 November 2017 at 21:34, Jonas Wielicki wrote: >> > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. >>

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 08:44:16 CET Remko Tronçon wrote: > Hi, > > On 7 November 2017 at 21:34, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Minor remark: the XEP says that spans MUST NOT overlap. Is there a reason >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-08 Thread Jonas Wielicki
On Mittwoch, 8. November 2017 08:29:49 CET Georg Lukas wrote: > * Goffi [2017-11-08 08:17]: > > about the stars in the list items, it's not really nice to keep them. > > > > It would be good to have an attribute to say which plain text characters > > can be safely removed

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Remko Tronçon
Hi, On 7 November 2017 at 21:34, Jonas Wielicki wrote: > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > Minor remark: the XEP says that spans MUST NOT overlap. Is there a reason for this? I'm asking, because the systems I have seen that use external

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Georg Lukas
* Goffi [2017-11-08 08:17]: > about the stars in the list items, it's not really nice to keep them. > > It would be good to have an attribute to say which plain text characters can > be safely removed without changing the meaning. > For instance type="numeric" means than

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Goffi
Le mardi 7 novembre 2017, 21:34:04 CET Jonas Wielicki a écrit : > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Message Markup > Abstract: > This specification provides an alternative to XHTML-IM with rigid > separation of content and markup information, improving

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Goffi
Le mardi 7 novembre 2017, 22:41:21 CET Marvin Gülker a écrit : > §9 on security: one issue that comes to my mind is specifying > out-of-range values for the "start" and "end" attributes by a malicious > client. Or a start without end/end without start, if a client replace it by HTML tags

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Marvin Gülker
This is an interesting approach. Specifying the markup completely externally would not have occured to me, but is a really cool idea. Some notes: §4.1 has: > The start and end attributes define the range at which the span is > applied. They are in units of unicode code points in the character >

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 11/7/17 1:48 PM, Goffi wrote: > Le mardi 7 novembre 2017, 21:34:04 CET Jonas Wielicki a écrit : >> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. >> >> Title: Message Markup >> Abstract: >> This specification provides an alternative to XHTML-IM with rigid >> separation of

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread Goffi
Le mardi 7 novembre 2017, 21:34:04 CET Jonas Wielicki a écrit : > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. > > Title: Message Markup > Abstract: > This specification provides an alternative to XHTML-IM with rigid > separation of content and markup information, improving

[Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Markup

2017-11-07 Thread XSF Editor
The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP. Title: Message Markup Abstract: This specification provides an alternative to XHTML-IM with rigid separation of content and markup information, improving the resilience against spoofing and injection attacks. URL: