Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-16 Thread Maciek Niedzielski
Kevin Smith wrote: Yes, I think you're right. So maybe we just need to define gone/ more carefully? Seems so to me. Client could determine that user is gone by using same technology it does to answer POKE requests ;) -- Maciek xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Kevin Smith wrote: Yes, I think you're right. So maybe we just need to define gone/ more carefully? Seems so to me. Well, gone/ is defined as the user has effectively ended their participation in the chat session -- i.e., the user has not interacted with the chat interface, system, or

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-16 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, gone/ is defined as the user has effectively ended their participation in the chat session -- i.e., the user has not interacted with the chat interface, system, or device for a relatively long period of time

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Kevin Smith wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, gone/ is defined as the user has effectively ended their participation in the chat session -- i.e., the user has not interacted with the chat interface, system, or device for a relatively long

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Someone pointed out to me the following discrepancy between XEP-0085 and XEP-0201... XEP-0085 says: Upon receiving a gone/ event, a client MUST NOT re-use the same Thread ID and MUST generate a new Thread ID for any subsequent chat messages sent to the

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-15 Thread Jehan
Hello, for my own I don't really know these XEP, so I will base my idea on what you wrote and also my logic. In a simple way, I think a thread could indeed be tied to a single chat window. But in the real use, there are 2 points I think important to raise: 1/ nowaydays most clients have the

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-15 Thread Kevin Smith
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XEP-0085 says: Upon receiving a gone/ event, a client MUST NOT re-use the same Thread ID and MUST generate a new Thread ID for any subsequent chat messages sent to the conversation partner. XEP-0201 says:

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Kevin Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XEP-0085 says: Upon receiving a gone/ event, a client MUST NOT re-use the same Thread ID and MUST generate a new Thread ID for any subsequent chat messages sent to the conversation partner.

Re: [Standards] thread destruction

2008-07-15 Thread Kevin Smith
Yes, I think you're right. So maybe we just need to define gone/ more carefully? Seems so to me. /K

[Standards] thread destruction

2008-06-10 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Someone pointed out to me the following discrepancy between XEP-0085 and XEP-0201... XEP-0085 says: Upon receiving a gone/ event, a client MUST NOT re-use the same Thread ID and MUST generate a new Thread ID for any subsequent chat messages sent to the conversation partner. XEP-0201