Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Goffi
Le lundi 7 janvier 2019, 21:00:42 CET Evgeny a écrit : > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:28 PM, Goffi wrote: > > Are you talking about the fact that "date of modification" (as > > defined in the protoXEP) could be out of sync between clusters? > > No, from the discussion I thought you want to have

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Evgeny
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 8:28 PM, Goffi wrote: Are you talking about the fact that "date of modification" (as defined in the protoXEP) could be out of sync between clusters? No, from the discussion I thought you want to have something like incremental unique "order" attribute in the node. And

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Ivan Vucica
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 11:30:26AM +0300, Evgeny wrote: > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM, Goffi wrote: > > Is there any implementation in the wild which would have issue with node > > order? > > Sure, any clustered database will have issues with > such naive approach: after partitioning during

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Goffi
Hi Jonas, Le lundi 7 janvier 2019, 18:08:25 CET Jonas Schäfer a écrit : > On Sonntag, 6. Januar 2019 15:16:43 CET Jonas Schäfer wrote: > > Title: Order-By > > Abstract: > > This specification allows to change order of items retrieval in a > > Pubsub or MAM query > > Couple notes: > > - The

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Goffi
Hi Evgeny, Le lundi 7 janvier 2019, 09:30:26 CET Evgeny a écrit : > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM, Goffi wrote: > > Is there any implementation in the wild which would have issue with > > node order? > > Sure, any clustered database will have issues with > such naive approach: after

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Sonntag, 6. Januar 2019 15:16:43 CET Jonas Schäfer wrote: > Title: Order-By > Abstract: > This specification allows to change order of items retrieval in a > Pubsub or MAM query Couple notes: - The strings for the "modification" and "creation" fields (as used in the element) should be URNs,

Re: [Standards] XEP-0283 (Moved) - offline/shutdown servers

2019-01-07 Thread Jonas Schäfer
On Sonntag, 6. Januar 2019 22:14:59 CET Maxime Buquet wrote: > Hi Standards, > > I had the opportunity to discuss with people interested in at > the 35C3. > > The current state of is not ideal, it is pretty much ephemeral, > and I Ge0rG has been working on it, and we've been discussing it at

Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Order-By

2019-01-07 Thread Evgeny
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM, Goffi wrote: Is there any implementation in the wild which would have issue with node order? Sure, any clustered database will have issues with such naive approach: after partitioning during merge you'll end up with duplicated orders, like 2 items with