Struts and JSF question

2003-12-20 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, I was having an email correspondance with someone and he asked me these questions below. It is about JSF and whether JSF is adequate by itself or needs to be coupled with a web framework like Struts to be better. I want to hear what your opinions are regarding why JSF

RE: Struts 2.0 Ideas (was Re: Struts 2.0 Discussion Forum)

2003-12-19 Thread Mete Kural
Hi Craig, A completely different way to consider using JSF would be to build a RenderKit that took input like this and generated the corresponding HTML (or whatever) markup, starting from the exact same components as the standard HTML RenderKit. In the JSF release, there is the very beginnings

RE: Struts 2.0 Ideas (was Re: Struts 2.0 Discussion Forum)

2003-12-19 Thread Mete Kural
If we do things right, IMHO workflow support system(s) should be a layer on top of the foundational request handling capability, so you can use it if you need it but it doesn't get in the way if you don't. I think I agree here. Isn't workflow something that the business tier implements in a

Re: Struts 2.0 Ideas (was Re: Struts 2.0 Discussion Forum)

2003-12-18 Thread Mete Kural
I am thinking of fliping sides on FormBean as interface, I am now leaning against formbeans being an interface. FormBean is a concept (properties that map to form elements), plus this idea of XML as a FormBean. It could be a List or String or anything. XML as a FormBean! That got my

Re: Struts 2.0 Ideas (was Re: Struts 2.0 Discussion Forum)

2003-12-18 Thread Mete Kural
For a given form/action, the framework will be supplied with the FQCN of the DTO/VO. From there, it can determine what the fields of the form will be. The form bean validation/descriptor XML will provide the validation information and any conversion rules as needed to format/parse between the

Re: Struts 2.0 Ideas (was Re: Struts 2.0 Discussion Forum)

2003-12-18 Thread Mete Kural
The dynamic field use case comes up all the time, but I have trouble getting my head around it. What would be helpful would be a example application that people could play with. You can take thought experiments only so far :) Yeah you're right. There needs to be an example application. We have

Struts 2.0 as a Portlet framework

2003-12-17 Thread Mete Kural
Hi All, A huge Struts 2.0 discussion on the struts-dev list has started. Everybody is putting in their ideas of how Struts 2.0 ought to be like. I encourage all Portal/Portlet developers to participate in that discussion in struts-dev and provide their insight on how Struts 2.0 could become a

Building the Struts /contrib code in the CVS

2003-10-29 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, Scott Weaver from the Jetspeed and Pluto projects wrote that he tried to build the code in the /contrib folder of the Struts CVS and faced some problems. I think he wants to take a look at the struts-chain code in order to figure out how it's going to work in a portlet

RE: JSR-168 and Struts

2003-10-29 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts and Pluto developers, There was a thread about developing JSR-168 support into Struts 2.0 in the pluto-dev list and we thought it might be best to continue this thread on both lists, pluto-dev and struts-dev synchronously. Below is the last email in the thread send by Scott

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, What will the role of the JSR-168 Portlet specification be for Struts 2? Will Struts 2 be a hybrid framework for both portlet applications and plain servlet applications? Thanks, Mete - To unsubscribe,

Re: Where is Struts 2 going?

2003-09-16 Thread Mete Kural
-- Original Message -- From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 10:27:33 -0700 (PDT) --- Mete Kural [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Struts developers, What will the role of the JSR-168 Portlet

Struts 2.x series

2003-08-15 Thread Mete Kural
Struts 2.x series would be based on Servlet 2.4 / JSP 2.0, but that's it Also for the Struts 2.x series, is there any inclination among the rest of the Struts developers to realize this goal statement that Craig mentioned: I believe that we should aim for the following ideal state -- a

Struts for Portlets

2003-08-14 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, I wanted to get your opinions on how Struts should be used as a portlet framework. I think that it would be great if a portlet framework was part of the standard Struts distribution in the near future. JSR-168 which defines standard portlets will be finalized pretty

Re: Struts for Portlets (requesting your opinions)

2003-08-14 Thread Mete Kural
PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:24:47 -0600 Agree. I just read Craig ideal view and I think this view may be a good start. BaTien DBGROUPS Mete Kural wrote: Struts-Tiles-Portal-Portlet framework and container. I think

Re: composable RequestProcessor

2003-06-03 Thread Mete Kural
Hello Struts developers, I noticed this discussion on how to design the next generation of the Struts RequestProcessor and it got me interested. I have one question to you guys about this subject. Can the next version of RequestProcessor be designed in such a way that it will enable

SwitchAction not switching to default sub-app

2002-06-20 Thread Mete Kural
Hello, I'm very sorry for sending this mail to this group, but I've been trying to get a hold on how to effectively use these sub-apps but I'm confused about how to switch between sub-apps still after reading the few messages on the topic already in the archives. There was no reply to my message