Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-20 Thread V. Cekvenich
: From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 So, I'd say lets cut to the chase. Do B4, and if it's good, let's just go with it. If the fence sitters come up with anything

RE: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread James Turner
] Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 David == David M Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Is there an easy way to get the diffs or comments of all elements with commits David since the 1.1b3 tagging? If it's useful, I figured out how to get the diffs

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Erik Hatcher
Try out Ant's cvstagdiff task - there is even an XSL file to turn this into a nice report built into the Ant 1.5+ distribution. Details: http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/manual/CoreTasks/cvstagdiff.html Erik On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 03:01 AM, David M. Karr wrote: David == David M Karr

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
It was my original understanding that Struts-el lived in the contrib folder, as Craig mentioned he would do with Struts-JSF. One advantage of this is that Struts-el (and Struts-JSF) could have their own release cycle. In general, I would to see us position Struts as a model and view agnostic

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Ted Husted wrote: Of course, since this is a majority vote situation, http://jakarta.apache.org/site/decisions.html these -1s will not prevent a release, unless other committers change their vote. (My chance to veto the idea unilaterally was when the build.xml was first changed, but that boat

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Regardless of what we do in this instance, could we clarify as a guideline 1) Whether Beta to Release candidate votes are on corresponding CVS tag. 2) Whether we want to go from the nightly build to a RC without an intervening beta. Whatever teams like Tomcat and Ant are doing would be fine

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
James Turner wrote: I would suggest that struts-el be packaged as a separate download from the Struts 1.1 core, on the grounds that... I can take the alternate view, which is that because struts-el is in the contrib directory, it implicitly has lower standards for release quality that the core

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread David M. Karr
Ted == Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted As it stands, struts-el has been documented as a contribution and does not Ted appear with the other developer guides (mea culpa). Making it a standalone Ted distribution is just a matter of changing the build script. This would then

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Martin Cooper wrote: Given that there have been around 50 commits since 1.1-b3, and there arecurrently 21 Bugzilla issues outstanding, in all honesty, I would find it hard to claim that 1.1-b3 is really a release candidate. I would prefer to take what we have now, or in a (very) short time

RE: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread James Turner
Ted said (I just love that aliteration...): My suggestion would be to schedule a Beta 4 against the nightly build, and then to not hesitate releasing B4 as Struts 1.1. final if it flies. The idea being we suspect that B4 is a defacto release candidate, and may go from B4 to Release,

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Be that as it may, there is not a strict technical requirement that any of the Struts taglibs be bundled in the core JAR or that the releases coincide with the release of the Action and Config packages. Is the struts-el taglib now actually broken because html:link gained a missing property? Or

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
Anyone still sitting on the fence at this point is probably going to sit there through the final release, or would poke around for weeks before looking at it. Personally, I say we fix the 8 issues, release B4, and if nothing critical comes up in a week or ten days, go to Struts 1.1 final.

RE: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread James Turner
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 So, I'd say lets cut to the chase. Do B4, and if it's good, let's just go with it. If the fence sitters come up

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread David M. Karr
Ted == Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted Is the struts-el taglib now actually broken because html:link gained a missing Ted property? Or does it simply fail to meet one of our expectations for the taglib? No, I certainly wouldn't call it broken, just that it wouldn't support an

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Ted Husted wrote: Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:42:26 -0500 From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 It was my original

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On 19 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: I don't know enough about what exactly Struts-JSF will be doing to really compare it, but I would guess that it won't be as intimately tied to the Struts MVC core or to the Struts tag library, which would make it logical to be released separately. I

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Ted Husted
to a release candidate or even the final release. (And I would favor the latter.) -Ted. James Turner wrote: From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 So, I'd say lets cut

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread V. Cekvenich
PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 So, I'd say lets cut to the chase. Do B4, and if it's good, let's just go with it. If the fence sitters come up with anything once final ships, we go

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Martin Cooper
then suggest converting the beta 4 to a release candidate or even the final release. (And I would favor the latter.) -Ted. James Turner wrote: From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:19 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread Martin Cooper
List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 So, I'd say lets cut to the chase. Do B4, and if it's good, let's just go with it. If the fence sitters come up with anything once final ships, we go with an early Struts 1.1.1. Let's get the momentum up, and trust

RE: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-19 Thread James Turner
Martin Cooper wrote: Perhaps surprisingly, other than fixing the 8 bugs, there really isn't that much difference. Renaming B3 to RC1 sounds simple, but in practice, it requires a fair amount of work. Make that 5 bugs... James -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread Rob Leland
David Graham wrote: +1 Didn't David add the cdata/comments to the Javascript Tag that he and Martin were talking about on Thursday. It seemed that there was still disagreement that was a good thing ? Would those end up in the RC1 from the head of the CVS tree or are we voting on the

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David M. Karr
David == David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David The only added attribute was cdata that defaults to true on the javascript David tag. I'd like to see this included in the release because it rounds out the David xhtml functionality. David We have yet to hear back from

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David M. Karr
David == David M Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David == David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David The only added attribute was cdata that defaults to true on the javascript David tag. I'd like to see this included in the release because it rounds out the David xhtml

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David Graham
Is that a -1 for 1.1 or -1 for any release? Dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Karr) Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 Date: 18 Jan 2003 13:13:43 -0800 David == David M Karr [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread Martin Cooper
On 18 Jan 2003, David M. Karr wrote: David == David M Karr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David == David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David The only added attribute was cdata that defaults to true on the javascript David tag. I'd like to see this included in the release because

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-18 Thread David M. Karr
David == David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Is that a -1 for 1.1 or -1 for any release? David Dave I very much want to see a 1.1 release very soon, I just don't think the release candidate should be the 1.1b3 release. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Karr)

[VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-17 Thread James Turner
In line with Craig's note earlier tonight, and the semi-voting that is already going on under another subject, I thought I'd make it formal/binding. So: +1 if you agree that the Struts 1.3b3 release should be declared the initial release candidate for the 1.1 release, with an RC2 in early

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-17 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
+1 Craig On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, James Turner wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:00:23 -0500 From: James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 In line with Craig's note earlier

Re: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1

2003-01-17 Thread James Mitchell
+1 -- James Mitchell - Original Message - From: James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: [VOTE] Declare Struts 1.1b3 as Struts 1.1 RC1 In line with Craig's note earlier tonight, and the semi-voting that is already going