RE: [AXIS4STRUTS] The old In and Out

2003-01-27 Thread Kevin . Bedell
I can see the appeal of exposing the web application's code as web services using Axis. It seems like exposing Action classes directly as web services will be more trouble than it's worth. It would seem better to move the code in the Action class into another class (not tied to Struts/Web)

Re: [AXIS4STRUTS] The old In and Out

2003-01-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Mike - If we start with the idea [Kevin's suggestion] that on the Axis side we develop a Web Service that accepts SOAP Requests with an XML payload and spins that payload into an HTTP POST/GET to a Struts Application as if that POST or GET was coming from a Web Browser. Then we need not

RE: [AXIS4STRUTS] The old In and Out

2003-01-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
*FridayModeOn* Axis and Struts, like ice cream and sex, are both good things, but I don't see much benefit to combining them. I think it depends on the flavor of the Ice Cream... ;-) *FridayModeOff* Is the idea behind Axis for Struts to expose Action classes as Web Services? Yes.

Re: [AXIS4STRUTS] The old In and Out

2003-01-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
I still haven't really absorbed the rationale for this, and my difficulty in answering some of your questions make me willing to step up and say so. Maybe it would help if we could frame the goal of the project, in terms of more than wouldn't it be cool? How about: My understanding

RE: [AXIS4STRUTS] The old In and Out

2003-01-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
True. But somehow, to leverage what struts really is, you would need to communicate some kind of instructions from the server side controller. The idea is to have the SOAP request contain essentially the same data as would be in an HTTP post (or get). Then you invoke Struts Actions the same

RE: Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread Kevin . Bedell
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RE: [AXIS4STRUTS] Axis4Struts package names

2003-01-21 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Craig M. asked: I thought the convention for SF-based Java projects was net.sf.package or something like that? If the code is later migrated into Struts and/or Axis, package names changes are pretty trivial, and shouldn't require fixing anything more than some import statements.

Re: First Topic for discussion on Axis4Struts

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
One of the first topics of discussion is where the Axis4Struts entry point should be? I can see several possibilities: One would be to clone/extend the ActionServlet as it is the component in standard struts that calls the Module's RequestHandlers. The advantage here would be the

Re: First Topic for discussion on Axis4Struts

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
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RE: First Topic for discussion on Axis4Struts

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Thanks Kevin, I agree from a 30,000' point of view. See my comments below. Thanks Mike - at least there's a basis to begin more discussions now! http://www.strutskickstart.com [Mike Oliver] BTW Bought the book. deep bowThank you thank you thank you!/deep bow 2. Struts would

RE: First Topic for discussion on Axis4Struts

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Kevin, I don?t read Struts-user, so sorry if you?ve already discussed this... I?m not figuring out what are the usage scenarios for this integration. What are the advantages of having this integration ? Why do this if you already have this: ---SOAP

RE: First Topic for discussion on Axis4Struts

2003-01-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Is org.apache.struts.axis4struts ok for a package? This may not be as simple as it seems. If the requirements are: - Some code will be required to be used in Struts apps - Some code will be required to be used in Axis apps - It would be nice to have a single JAR file that could be

Re: Proposal: Use java2html to generate browseable source code.

2003-01-06 Thread Kevin . Bedell
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Re: javadoc Weird state of org/apache/struts/util/AppException.java

2002-11-08 Thread Kevin . Bedell
,$s/.$// This simply deletes the last character on every line of the file. Kevin Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/08/2002 12:20:45 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO

Re: Struts WML Tag Library

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin . Bedell
This looks great. Thanks for the thoughts - Chip Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/01/2002 10:25:47 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Struts WML Tag Library I'm currently

RE: Struts WML Tag Library

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Any way to combine forces? Daniel Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/01/2002 10:25:26 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:RE: Struts WML Tag Library Chip

Re: Struts IRC Channel

2002-10-28 Thread Kevin . Bedell
PROTECTED] Sent by:news [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Struts IRC Channel Also, if a question is answered, at least in theory you can say Search the mail archive for post X and thus preserving the knowledge. .V

Re: Does anyone successfully run the StrutsTestCase example?

2002-10-16 Thread Kevin . Bedell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/16/2002 09:45:02 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Does anyone successfully run the StrutsTestCase example? If so do you recommended using

Re: Future Release Suggestion

2002-10-15 Thread Kevin . Bedell
: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Future Release Suggestion As Craig pointed out recently, we all really do this for our own use, and if someone else can use it too, then that's icing on the cake. Most of the Committers are highly enough placed in their own organizations

Re: Faster View Components...

2002-10-02 Thread Kevin . Bedell
at: http://strutstestcase.sourceforge.net/ Best of luck, Kevin -- Kevin Bedell author, Struts Kickstart - SAMS Publishing Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/02/2002 12:21:53 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Developers List

Re: StrutsTestCase / Struts 1.1b2 / Cactus- ConcurrentModificationException

2002-09-18 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Erik - Thanks for informing the list - Erik Hatcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/18/2002 11:01:22 AM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: StrutsTestCase

Re: Struts related application server errors?

2002-08-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
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Re: Struts related application server errors?

2002-08-19 Thread Kevin . Bedell
: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Struts related application server errors? At first I was chalking this up to some Jetty strangeness (the JBoss version with it embedded) but we just got the same error deploying our app to JRun - so I'm suspecting something fishy with Struts classes

RE: Struts related application server errors?

2002-08-19 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Developers List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:RE: Struts related application server errors? The constant that is not being found (EVAL_BODY_AGAIN) was introduced in JSP 1.2, and it looks like your container does not support that. The constant does

Re: concerns about Struts

2002-08-14 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Good insight - thanks for the comments. 1) Object explosion for large sites--1-to-1 mapping of URLs to objects can lead to hundreds of small classes. It really bothers me that Struts encourages this kind of situation. Although the DispatchAction helps a lot. The value Struts adds (and why

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Struts 1.1 Beta 2 Released

2002-08-13 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Congratulations to everyone on this milestone. Thanks for the hard work. -- Forwarded by Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife on 08/13/2002 09:41 AM --- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 08/13/2002 02:32:54 AM Please respond to Struts Developers List

RE: XML Config: viewpoints

2002-07-30 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Some thoughts... - Is it such a good idea to pour much of fundamental application design into xml files? - Should config files be confined to things such as database parameters? - Tendency for xml config to become a mini programming language in itself - Lacks type safety, syntax checking

RE: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/actionActionServlet.java

2002-07-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
PROTECTED] To:Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:RE: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/action ActionServlet.java On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Martin Cooper wrote: Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:46:20 -0700 From

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-struts/src/share/org/apache/struts/actionActionServlet.java

2002-07-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Normally, namespaces should also work with DTD, ensuring proper validation (or did I miss something ?) As far as I can tell, the one-and-only DTD that you declare at the top of your original source document is the only one that is used for the entire thing -- and this DTD has to be

Re: [VOTE] struts-ANNOUNCE / struts-FAQ

2002-06-11 Thread Kevin . Bedell
- which btw allows them to be easily included in the doc distribution. Kevin Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/11/2002 04:09:19 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife

Re: [WANTED] Struts Editor for Jakarta Newsletter

2002-06-07 Thread Kevin . Bedell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: Re: [WANTED] Struts Editor for Jakarta Newsletter We're getting a little bit off topic here, but the typical reply to a posting like this is going to be Thanks for volunteering

Re: Re[2]: Re[2]: Small question on Struts !

2002-05-31 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Not sure - try just changing it in your directory structure prior to running te build. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/31/2002 02:13:29 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife

Re: Re[2]: Small question on Struts !

2002-05-30 Thread Kevin . Bedell
in the web_inf directory? Should be the WEB-INF directory - case counts in Java. Is this it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/30/2002 02:39:14 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO

Re: Contributions I would like to make to Struts 1.1

2002-05-30 Thread Kevin . Bedell
] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: Contributions I would like to make to Struts 1.1 I would like to make a couple of small contributions to this next release (1.1) of Struts: 1. The Struts version of a guessing game app like the one in the Tomcat release 2. A minor re

Re: Small question on Struts !

2002-05-29 Thread Kevin . Bedell
development. Best of luck! FWIW - Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/29/2002 07:05:59 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: Small question on Struts ! Hi All, I am

re: [Bug 9461] - Can't compile due to errors - INVALID

2002-05-28 Thread Kevin . Bedell
: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 9461] - Can't compile due to errors DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9461. ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE

Re: Resource Page...

2002-05-22 Thread Kevin . Bedell
] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject: Re: Resource Page... When building the nightly build from CVS, I'm getting D:\jakarta\cvsroot\jakarta-struts\build.xml:320: javax.xml.transform.TransformerConfigurationException: File file:D

RE: Looking at dev work

2002-05-20 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Thanks for the input. If you think there's a need, then there likely is Thanks again - kevin Michael Marrotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/17/2002 05:14:50 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Kevin

Looking at dev work

2002-05-16 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Hello all. I'm posting this to the dev list. I've got the nightly build going and have been going through it. I'm interested in making some contributions to the codebase. I can come up with ideas - but where is the need? What needs to be done? I've been doing Java for a few years and did

Re: Forward after check-login

2002-04-24 Thread Kevin . Bedell
I don't disagree with this approach. One of the problems with using a check-login tag in the jsp is that the check is postponed until you're actually in the jsp. The action servlet is a better place to handle this kind of decision making. By subclassing the Action servlet you ensure you have

Re: Design Issue for Fisrt Web Application

2002-04-23 Thread Kevin . Bedell
You're using database security for a web application? SuppressUrgeToAskWhy / Here's some sample code snippets you'll have to hack together. It should give you an idea to begin with. import java.sql.*; // Initialize these somehow from your login page...

Re: form bean life cycle

2002-04-22 Thread Kevin . Bedell
Gee - No sooner did I fire off my response, then I read this response telling me I was all wrong. egg-on-face/ I guess I'm specifying how I design code myself - not how struts does it. That being said, this limitation of having to specify a concrete class only should be logged as an